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Old 08-26-2007, 08:58 AM
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I haven't read this entire thread yet; but I just want to say that I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW SUCH THINGS CAN HAPPEN! ARE THESE MEN ANIMALS? DON'T THEY HAVE SELF CONTROL LIKE THE REST OF THE HUMAN RACE?! IT ANGERS ME BEYOND WORDS!

Self control?

Who in their right mind has to exercise self control to keep their hands off a child?

Sadly, that is a perversion that goes far beyond unrestrained carnality.

Something is twisted up way down inside.
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LadyChocolate- I understand where you are coming from. Most probably feel this way. However, many of these cases involve a perpetrator who was once themselves a victim as a child. It is sad all the way around.
Newman, IMO, that does NOT matter AT ALL. Why? Here's my answer:

So was I [a victim as a child]; however, I have never molested another child. I'll NEVER buy that as an excuse! Each adult is solely responsible for their OWN behavior.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:14 AM
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This is true and yet I have talked to a woman who was molested by a minister as a young teenager. She absolutly claims peace and victory over this. I believe there are alot of people that could benefit from understanding how she was able to overcome (even when the good ole boys network swept it under the carpet).

The sad reality is that 1 out of 4 girls have been molested as a child and one out of 7 boys. This is something the church needs to talk about and minister to.
Not only that, but parents need to talk to their children about it as well. IMO, it's IMPERATIVE! Children NEED to feel comfortable (unfortunately) enough to talk to their parents about such things. Parents have to talk to their children openly and comfortably about sexual abuse. It's hard to do, but it's so important. Otherwise, children will continue to feel ashamed and be too embarrassed to tell their parents if they are abused or molested.

It really needs to be discussed (openly/comfortably) quite often. Just like we tell them over & over not to talk to strangers, or not to take anything (candy, money, etc.) from strangers, or not to go near cars if someone stops to ask a question, etc.

I think it's so important that when we talk to our children about sexual abuse that we do so as comfortably as we tell them about strangers. If we act like it embarrasses US, then our kids WILL be afraid to tell. It's so sad that life is this way, but it is.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:18 AM
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Self control?

Who in their right mind has to exercise self control to keep their hands off a child?

Sadly, that is a perversion that goes far beyond unrestrained carnality.

Something is twisted up way down inside.
Which is why I asked if these men are animals? I just don't understand it. It's beyond my comprehension. I don't get it! AT ALL!
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Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:25 AM
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This is a horrible thing to happen..My heart breaks for the child.


When I read the article in the Globe I was upset over the graphic details they told. I do not agree with that, for various reasons.
One thing is even more of her privacy has been violated.

The last 3/4 articles dealing with sexual crimes they have ran, they have been graphic.

What do you think?
Part of me says yes, tell it all; even read it to your children. But I totally understand the privacy issue with the child. Then again, the CHILD did nothing wrong - so she should not be made to feel that what happened is something that should be hush-hush. Yet, sexuality should be private. However, this man has changed that, IMO. BUT, ... Well, I just don't know.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:25 AM
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Well, I think the days of shuffling people around the country, sweeping the matter under the carpet, and looking the other way are OVER. Too much potential liability now days to do so.
VERY SAD that this is what it takes to stop sweeping it under the rug.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:26 AM
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Margie,

This man shouldn't be respected for confessing the crimes he committed against this innocent child. He molested her over a period of years and the only reason he confessed was because he was caught.

This child has to carry this with her the rest of her life and the damage wrought to her has many levels - physical, emotional and spiritual.
I agree!
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Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:27 AM
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Abused. Abuser. Abused. Absurer. It continues.
Not always... I don't buy this as an excuse.
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1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:27 AM
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Not always... I don't buy this as an excuse.
I don't think anyone is offering it as an excuse, because I agree, it really isn't. It's just fact. Sadly so.

Abusers have always existed and always will and there are many different kinds of abuse. It all affects the abused individual in negative ways that they have to deal with eventually and sometimes all their lives.

Educating children doesn't always guarantee protection either. Another sad fact, but a true one too.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:33 AM
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I don't think anyone is offering it as an excuse, because I agree, it really isn't. It's just fact. Sadly so.

Abusers have always existed and always will and there are many different kinds of abuse. It all affects the abused individual in negative ways that they have to deal with eventually and sometimes all their lives.

Educating children doesn't always guarantee protection either. Another sad fact, but a true one too.
No, it doesn't always guarantee protection; but it helps children be better equipped to tell the FIRST time something happens rather than not telling & suffering through the abuse for years. The more "education" the better.
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Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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