Just Listened to JA Preach first night of TN Campmeeting....Disappointing....

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I am OK with being called an ignorant retard and stupid cat etc. by a minister of the gospel... I do expect him to recieve the same from those he preaches to though.

About 18 years ago I was a day speaker at a youth convention in which JA was the night speaker. During one of his messages he had all the PASTORS stand up...he then had all of the SAINTS INCLUDING YOUTH point at them...he then instructed them to say to the pastors, "You are the problem!" leaving the pastors standing there like deer in headlights....

Needless to say, That went over like the plague among the pastors, especially those who had disgruntled saints in the crowd that night...if you catch my drift...LOL!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

About 18 years ago I was a day speaker at a youth convention in which JA was the night speaker. During one of his messages he had all the PASTORS stand up...he then had all of the SAINTS INCLUDING YOUTH point at them...he then instructed them to say to the pastors, "You are the problem!" leaving the pastors standing there like deer in headlights....

Needless to say, That went over like the plague among the pastors, especially those who had disgruntled saints in the crowd that night...if you catch my drift...LOL!

Was this at Illinois camp?

[ChTatum]

Truth or urban legend?


Did JA actually throw a microphone at a guy in the sound booth?

If he did, until he repents and publically apologized to the person, I have no desire to hear him.

Can anyone say "Nicolaitanes"?

[RandyWayne]

Who is JA?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Who is JA?

Jeff Arnold

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Who is JA?

He is a legend in many people's minds.

Not mine, as I have never heard him.

Left that "movement" years ago.

The term "movement" does not implicitly infer "bowel".

[RandyWayne]

I have never heard the name before.... But then again, I have not been in the official organization for 20+ years.

I regularly see lists of preachers followed by a long list of posts proclaiming the virtues of such a celebrity line up. I cringe every time I see such a thread. It makes me want to play the theme song that was playing when the Blues Brothers entered the stage during their Chicago debut -"and furthermore we'd like to thank the fine officers of Chicago's finest who chose to be here today....."

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I have never heard the name before.... But then again, I have not been in the official organization for 20+ years.

He is one of the most popular/controversial preacher in UPC. He is very good, but is very much the same everytime he preaches. He has preached some of my favorite sermons ever, "Come out of your cave" --that one was awesome, "Miracle is looking for a vessel" "Your vision will be your victory" He is good, but rude sometime, though I am never offended by him some people do not like him.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Was this at Illinois camp?

No..it was in Canada....but I'm not saying he didn't do the same thing in illinois...he might have done it every time he preached that particular message...LOL

All I know is that there were several churches up there that voted annually on the pastor...and there were some pastoral changes right after that youth convention...

[Sherri]

A few of our people went to hear J.A. at Camp meeting this year (VERY few), since it was here in Jackson. They actually liked what he had to say, but were shocked at some of his wording. I think they thought the messages were good content, but the presentation was crude.