Pastors move to withhold/lessen SFC offerings in protest of NAYC

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

He's asked if your staying or leaving the forum, perhaps?

Why would he ask that question?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

Why would he ask that question?

I was asked a similar question by a member of admin via PM yesterday. Perhaps it's a census being taken?

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I was asked a similar question by a member of admin via PM yesterday. Perhaps it's a census being taken?

or a polite way to say, if you dont like it you can leave

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I was asked a similar question by a member of admin via PM yesterday. Perhaps it's a census being taken?

I am a member of Admin and I am an owner and I PMed you yesterday - so at the sake of making a mistake let me assume that you were talking about me. If that be the case your above post is a lie.

Here is the PM I sent to you minus a small private part at the end that had nothing to do with subject in question.

noticed on one of the threads.....didnt read it all, just the first two pages, that you seem to no longer like the makeup of the admin........even though renda is on a break.... as I have been for about three weeks or so......

it is real simple dan, if you dont like it feel free to not click on the link that brings you to the forum......but otherwise your constant banter gets old......

this is just MHlittleO...........

I am sure that there are many places that would love to have your banter.....but otherwise give some good discussion and not the constant pushing the lines.....


God bless.

Now I do not see where you were polled to leave the forum, I stated (and it was not as a member of admin or owner, but as a poster) that I noticed in your post you didnt seem happy..... and as a poster I am sick and tired of your pushing the lines.........(and I say as poster - to the best of my knowledge I have never even infracted you over a matter so I was not speaking as an admin for if I were I would have taken action.......)


Dont ever take anything I say and try to turn it to something it is not, for if I see it I will call your hand on the matter........too bad you couldnt keep it to PM...........


IAM

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I was asked a similar question by a member of admin via PM yesterday. Perhaps it's a census being taken?

Here's the post PP.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

some of the areas SFC helps.

Lighthouse Ranch for Boys
Tupelo Children's Mansion
New Beginnings
Foreign Missions with Vehicles
Home Missions with Church Grants and church-in-a-day
% of the SFC offering stays in the Local District to fund District Events like Camps, Retreats, and Conferernces.

These are the areas hurt by withdrawal of SFC offerings.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

some of the areas SFC helps.

Lighthouse Ranch for Boys
Tupelo Children's Mansion
New Beginnings
Foreign Missions with Vehicles
Home Missions with Church Grants and church-in-a-day
% of the SFC offering stays in the Local District to fund District Events like Camps, Retreats, and Conferernces.

These are the areas hurt by withdrawal of SFC offerings.

Bump to bring the discussion back to topic.

(Or try to)

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

NYLP, I thought so too, but found the opposite is indeed true.

Token $100 protest offerings with letters sent to HQ and then offerings directly to the other ministries.

Sad but it is true.

I am torn in all this. While I can understand the frustration that goes into such a choice, I am not sure it is the proper choice to make.

I personally feel that the conservative ministers are just very frustrated because so much is changing (Only time will tell if the changes are for better or worse), and feel like they are no longer being heard by HQ. In their frustration to be heard, many are diverting funds from HQ and sending them directly to the source, or using sources like the IAM that takes no percentage out of the funds.

Is this right? I don't know all the ends and outs of the organization, so I don't know. But maybe a revolution is in order for this to come to a head and be dealt with.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Joseph

I am torn in all this. While I can understand the frustration that goes into such a choice, I am not sure it is the proper choice to make.

I personally feel that the conservative ministers are just very frustrated because so much is changing (Only time will tell if the changes are for better or worse), and feel like they are no longer being heard by HQ. In their frustration to be heard, many are diverting funds from HQ and sending them directly to the source, or using sources like the IAM that takes no percentage out of the funds.

Is this right? I don't know all the ends and outs of the organization, so I don't know. But maybe a revolution is in order for this to come to a head and be dealt with.

Who is the proletariat? who are the bourgeoisie that will join the plebians in revolting?