Serious Pants/ Skirts Question... Not Trying to Debate... Thanks!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by crakjak

For the record, I don't believe ladies should be parading around on the beach in immodest attire. However, there is much more appropriate swim wear than what you, my friend have described.

And I will further declare that we males need more teaching and maturity on the proper respect and understanding in relating to our females sisters. Paul said, "I keep MY body under..." Instead of burning with lust, men let's get understanding. Appreciate the beauty without allowing lingering and fantasy, which never satisfies only inflames.

Why bother resisting? We're all going to heaven anyway, remember???? (Just havin some fun with ya.)

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by philjones

Esther,

They are indeed relative. I was also referring to the interpretation of a scripture, just not Deut. 22:5 or whereever it is?

I was speaking of the one that talks about modest apparel. I Tim 2:9. If he is comfortable interpreting one differently and is accepted then it would follow that he would have to be accepted with his interpretation of the other.

I will assure you that there are many OPs on this site that feel it is fine for ladies to run around on the beach in their bra and panties and still be saved. Of course these same folks would be embarrassed if I accidentally walked in on them getting dressed in their REAL bra and panties. Go figure.

I would only be comfortable interpreting something differently where there is a precedent of various interpretations. Pants/skirts, right now on earth today, has several different interpretations. For instance, there are apostolic churches on foreign mission fields where the men, WEAR SKIRTS, all the time, to play, to PREACH, etc... And in bible times, they had a completely different understanding of Deut 22:5...

Modesty is another issue. I however wouldn't have a problem with differnt interpretations of modesty... for instance some say "long sleeves" to the writs, others say "3/4 length", some say short sleeves are ok... others "sleeves to the finger tips". There are already different interpretations with regards to modesty, but lets not get into that discussion here, I am speaking only of pants/skirts.

[BobDylan]

[QUOTE=philjones;241310]Bob,

I understand what you are asking and what you have just said regarding the culture of the past 30 years.

I guess my concern would be that this same Baptist preacher would also interpret as modest a woman parading around on a beach or at a pool in her bra and panties (called a swimsuit for some unknown reason). Can he continue to embrace that position and still be OK?[/QUOTE]

I don't necessarily agree with this slippery slope conclusion. The principle of modesty is replete in scripture, and most societies in general have a basic understanding of modesty and immodesty. It doesn't take a scholar to look at biblical customs and the society of the bible and determine what was considered modest and immodest at that time, and throughout most eras in most societies. The same cannot be said for "pants/skirts" being the absolute paradigm for what is women's and men's apparel. Revaluating something that is societal based (pants skirts), in light of something that isn't sociatal based (modesty), is comparing apples and oranges. There is no reason here, imo, to force-join these two issues (modesty and pants/skirts) in that each can be handled seperately on their own merits and biblical interpretation.

Originally Posted by philjones

Bob,

I understand what you are asking and what you have just said regarding the culture of the past 30 years.

I guess my concern would be that this same Baptist preacher would also interpret as modest a woman parading around on a beach or at a pool in her bra and panties (called a swimsuit for some unknown reason). Can he continue to embrace that position and still be OK?

Once again..a good question is trumped by a Con position showing an EXTREME case....try to answer the question with out extreme cases and with modesty on both parts and you have no argument.
For you to assume they would also agree with "bra and panties" is ignorant analogies.