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Old 10-07-2007, 09:26 PM
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Bro. Chambers years ago at a meeting declared holding the Bible in one hand and the manual in the other said the church shall be governed by these two books.(Or something very similiar.) I forget the exact words.
Some seem to hold the manual up a little higher than their bible.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:29 PM
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Chris Craft is VERY close to Bro. Odum, one of the oranizers of the Tulsa convocation.

Also, keep in mind that TLC "retired" to Bro. Nate Wilson's Rock Church in CA.

These facts might give some credence to the assertion of Linus and Lucy's friend CB.
Good point about TLC's relationship in recent years with NW. I don't know anything about CC but I am surprised he is that conservative.

This possible situation has had me thinking. If a church like FPC that has been a very visible high profile UPC church for a long time was to leave the UPC I think the congregation would have a problem with that unless there was another similar entity to take its place. That may be why the conservative organizers want to get this new org. going fairly quickly. It could be a comfort zone for congregations used to being a part of an org. for a long time.
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Good point about TLC's relationship in recent years with NW. I don't know anything about CC but I am surprised he is that conservative.

This possible situation has had me thinking. If a church like FPC that has been a very visible high profile UPC church for a long time was to leave the UPC I think the congregation would have a problem with that unless there was another similar entity to take its place. That may be why the conservative organizers want to get this new org. going fairly quickly. It could be a comfort zone for congregations used to being a part of an org. for a long time.
CC1 I think that is point men who have lived forever inside the confines of an organization do not think they can exist without being in something so that is the reason for the quick move on the part of these brethren. It is a strange concept to men like myself but I understand them. The next few months are going to be interesting to say the least.
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You know what they say when the rats leave the ship, eh?
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Bro. Chambers years ago at a meeting declared holding the Bible in one hand and the manual in the other said the church shall be governed by these two books.(Or something very similiar.) I forget the exact words.
Idolatry. Whew.
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You know what they say when the rats leave the ship, eh?
The ship is sinking.
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The ship is sinking.
either that or they put a huge cat on board .....
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I find it interesting that folks like NW are using video in a big way on the on the internet with ABN Global but are leaving the UPC over it allowing the same thing on broadcast stations vs. just the inernet.

Selective use of technology is ok I guess. Apparently the internet is a "worthy medium".
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either that or they put a huge cat on board .....

I found this on the internet:

When Rats Leave a Sinking Ship

During the first century A.D. Pliny the Elder wrote in his Natural History that "when a building is about to fall down, all the rats desert it." A more modern proverb suggests that rats always leave a sinking ship.

This proverbial phenomenon has been observed for centuries and led to the belief that rats possess some mystical power to anticipate disaster. A dread warning that a ship would be making its final voyage was foretold if rats were seen scurrying off the ship before it sailed. In The Tempest, Shakespeare described the boat on which the duke and his infant daughter had been set adrift as so unseaworthy that "the very rats instinctively have quite it."

It is not unusual for rats to leave a ship in great columns or masses if it is sinking. Therefore the sight of hordes of rats scurrying to upper decks of a ship might suggest to fellow passengers that the ship is on its way down. This has nothing to do with the rat’s extrasensory perception or powers of prognostication but with its awareness of what is happening at that very moment.

Being burrow dwellers by nature, rats live in the deepest recesses of the ship, in the bilge. This area is so low as to be almost inaccessible to the sailors. Thus the rats become aware of water entering the ship some time before the crew is alerted. As their nesting places are flooded, the rodents are impelled to flee the ship. Their continuous shrill cries of alarm quickly summon the rest of the rats from the hold. They build up into a large, frightened mass of rodents making a panicky exodus. This is, of course, a final calamity for the rats, since they will try to swim to eternity and usually do.

It is quite natural that a sight such as this would incite the passengers and crew to an equally hasty, harried departure but one that ends less disastrously.
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I find it interesting that folks like NW are using video in a big way on the on the internet with ABN Global but are leaving the UPC over it allowing the same thing on broadcast stations vs. just the inernet.

Selective use of technology is ok I guess. Apparently the internet is a "worthy medium".
Nate Wilson leaving the UPC? Where did this come from?
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