How Many "3 Steppers" Do We Have On Aff???

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Felicity

But is regeneration/being born again a process?

Of course.

[Adino]

Originally Posted by Felicity

But is regeneration/being born again a process?

Helloooooo..... Just for the fun of it I would ask:

Is the heart's conversion to faith in Christ a process?

We know there is a time of consideration of the Gospel once heard, but if you agree there is a moment the heart passes from unbelief to belief then I would suggest this is the moment the heart passes from spiritual death to spiritual life. The moment the heart is quickened to spiritual life is the moment of regeneration. The living heart of faith is evidence of the indwelling Spirit of life and of the new birth.

He that believes: “hath everlasting life” (John 3:15-16, 36; 6:40,47; 11:26), “is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24; 11:25), “dwelleth in God, and God in him” (1John 3:23-24), “is born of God” (1John 5:1; John 1:12-13).

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Adino

Helloooooo..... Just for the fun of it I would ask:

Is the heart's conversion to faith in Christ a process?

We know there is a time of consideration of the Gospel once heard, but if you agree there is a moment the heart passes from unbelief to belief then I would suggest this is the moment the heart passes from spiritual death to spiritual life. The moment the heart is quickened to spiritual life is the moment of regeneration. The living heart of faith is evidence of the indwelling Spirit of life and of the new birth.

He that believes: “hath everlasting life” (John 3:15-16, 36; 6:40,47; 11:26), “is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24; 11:25), “dwelleth in God, and God in him” (1John 3:23-24), “is born of God” (1John 5:1; John 1:12-13).

Again is this BEFORE and APART from repentance?????????????????????????
Good to see you post although you are nearly always wrong.
Studious but wrong.

[Adino]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Again is this BEFORE and APART from repentance?????????????????????????
Good to see you post although you are nearly always wrong.
Studious but wrong.

LOL... hey, Steve, good to see you.

I'll tell you once again, since I know that southern water might be messing with your memory.... faith takes place in repentance.

It is the heart returning to God (repenting) which takes the path of faith in Christ. Repent and convert (believe) that your sins may be blotted out (Acts 3:19). The New Testament message was one of repentance and faith (Acts 20:21; Hebrews 6:1; Mark 1:15).

The message isn't only that we are depraved and should return to God humble and remorse. It is that we who are humble and remorse should return to God through Christ. The repenting heart can only fully return to God upon hearing the Gospel and trusting in Christ.

God revives the heart of those who have a humble and contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God revives the heart of the humble and contrite ones (i.e., of the repenting ones) by his word. The repentant heart is born again of the word/Gospel (1Peter1:23). When the Gospel is presented to a humbled and contrite heart it will be quickened to faith thus completing the return to God.

The contrite heart is revived.... it is made alive.... it is born again of the word.

Faith comes by hearing the word (Romans 10:17). The repenting heart that believes in the Gospel is passed from death unto life and is born of God (John 5:24; 11:25; 1John 5:1; John 1:12-13; 1Peter 1:23).

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Adino

LOL... hey, Steve, good to see you.

I'll tell you once again, since I know that southern water might be messing with your memory.... faith takes place in repentance.

It is the heart returning to God (repenting) which takes the path of faith in Christ. Repent and convert (believe) that your sins may be blotted out (Acts 3:19). The New Testament message was one of repentance and faith (Acts 20:21; Hebrews 6:1; Mark 1:15).

The message isn't only that we are depraved and should return to God humble and remorse. It is that we who are humble and remorse should return to God through Christ. The repenting heart can only fully return to God upon hearing the Gospel and trusting in Christ.

God revives the heart of those who have a humble and contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God revives the heart of the humble and contrite ones (i.e., of the repenting ones) by his word. The repentant heart is born again of the word/Gospel (1Peter1:23). When the Gospel is presented to a humbled and contrite heart it will be quickened to faith thus completing the return to God.
The contrite heart is revived.... it is made alive.... it is born again of the word.

Faith comes by hearing the word (Romans 10:17). The repenting heart that believes in the Gospel is passed from death unto life and is born of God (John 5:24; 11:25; 1John 5:1; John 1:12-13; 1Peter 1:23).

Well said, Adino!!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Adino

LOL... hey, Steve, good to see you.

I'll tell you once again, since I know that southern water might be messing with your memory.... faith takes place in repentance.

It is the heart returning to God (repenting) which takes the path of faith in Christ. Repent and convert (believe) that your sins may be blotted out (Acts 3:19). The New Testament message was one of repentance and faith (Acts 20:21; Hebrews 6:1; Mark 1:15).

The message isn't only that we are depraved and should return to God humble and remorse. It is that we who are humble and remorse should return to God through Christ. The repenting heart can only fully return to God upon hearing the Gospel and trusting in Christ.

God revives the heart of those who have a humble and contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God revives the heart of the humble and contrite ones (i.e., of the repenting ones) by his word. The repentant heart is born again of the word/Gospel (1Peter1:23). When the Gospel is presented to a humbled and contrite heart it will be quickened to faith thus completing the return to God.

The contrite heart is revived.... it is made alive.... it is born again of the word.

Faith comes by hearing the word (Romans 10:17). The repenting heart that believes in the Gospel is passed from death unto life and is born of God (John 5:24; 11:25; 1John 5:1; John 1:12-13; 1Peter 1:23).

My goodness, Adino ... It's so plain to see.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Adino

LOL... hey, Steve, good to see you.

I'll tell you once again, since I know that southern water might be messing with your memory.... faith takes place in repentance.

It is the heart returning to God (repenting) which takes the path of faith in Christ. Repent and convert (believe) that your sins may be blotted out (Acts 3:19). The New Testament message was one of repentance and faith (Acts 20:21; Hebrews 6:1; Mark 1:15).

The message isn't only that we are depraved and should return to God humble and remorse. It is that we who are humble and remorse should return to God through Christ. The repenting heart can only fully return to God upon hearing the Gospel and trusting in Christ.

God revives the heart of those who have a humble and contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God revives the heart of the humble and contrite ones (i.e., of the repenting ones) by his word. The repentant heart is born again of the word/Gospel (1Peter1:23). When the Gospel is presented to a humbled and contrite heart it will be quickened to faith thus completing the return to God.

The contrite heart is revived.... it is made alive.... it is born again of the word.

Faith comes by hearing the word (Romans 10:17). The repenting heart that believes in the Gospel is passed from death unto life and is born of God (John 5:24; 11:25; 1John 5:1; John 1:12-13; 1Peter 1:23).

Adino the dodger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN does regeneration takes place BEFORE and APART of repentance?
Certainly repentance is the New Testament message no argument there it is ALWAYS accompanied with baptism. The SAME faith that works repentance also works baptism and receiving the HGB. Heb.11:6
Faith is DOING what God says believing He will do what He says. Again I enjoy fussing with you. I may come that way to visit my friends if I do I will contact you.

[Trouvere]

Birth happens once.Growth however continues.We do not keep getting born again.We do however keep growing.We must continue in the faith.Repentance is an ongoing thing.Grace is what keeps us.Jesus
expressedly said we must be born again.Birth is an experience and it does not
keep happening.There is always a beginning for each soul.
Is this thread about the salvation experience or the process called continuing in
the faith? There is a difference.

[Ron]

I always saw it as one step containing three parts.

[mizpeh]

Adino,

I'm confused by what you wrote. Does faith come simultaneously with repentance or before repentance? Why do you think coverted means believe?

"Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; NASV