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11-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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]I remember growing up many called us........ONELESS...........havent heard that one in a while..........
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11-01-2007, 08:05 PM
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The Questions still have not been answered. We all know what history says. We all know the definition of The Trinity.
I have not read a thing that I did not read 30 years ago when I first encountered a "Oneness Pentecostal".
We know that the early "Oneness" pioneers were not always "Oneness". When was that word coined?
Did the early "Oneness" pioneers that baptized in Jesus name say that the ones that stayed with the A/G believed in "Three God's"?
Somebody, somewhere knows where this stuff started and I want to know who started it. From all I have read - Haywood did not believe or preach that Trinitarians believed in Three God's. Did Andrew Urshan believe and preach this? Come on guys - you can do better than this. Tell the truth!
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Most of the language came from older sources. People would do research and come up with the terminology from older debates. Most of it was from the Unitarian debates of the 19th Century. I'm at work right now, but I do remember reading how the term "Oneness" was carried over. There was an almost verbatum statemnent that many used that had been used by Unitarians earlier.
The fact of the matter is, "this stuff started" almost 2,000 years ago. We've just been rehashing it over and over again.
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11-01-2007, 08:20 PM
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It is a lie. And yes the lying must stop if we desire to have any merit at all in theological discussions.
For those of you who have met "many... who believe very strongly in three gods" PLease post ONE single video clip of anyone of any stature at all in Christian circles, who confesses faith in three gods.
These clips should be easy to find - or do they only pledge their allegence after dark in debates with those evil One God folk??
If we get alot of response I will start a new thread to handle the videos...
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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11-01-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
It is a lie. And yes the lying must stop if we desire to have any merit at all in theological discussions.
For those of you who have met "many... who believe very strongly in three gods" PLease post ONE single video clip of anyone of any stature at all in Christian circles, who confesses faith in three gods.
These clips should be easy to find - or do they only pledge their allegence after dark in debates with those evil One God folk??
If we get alot of response I will start a new thread to handle the videos...
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The simple! The simple started this lie according to Tertullian:
The simple, indeed, (I will not call them unwise and unlearned,) who always constitute the majority of believers, are startled at the dispensation (of the Three in One), on the ground that their very rule of faith withdraws them from the world's plurality of gods to the one only true ...
http://www.christiandefense.org/Tertullian.Prax.htm#2 (see first line in chapt three.)
Of course The SIMPLE are not considered of any stature at all in Christian circles. 
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11-01-2007, 08:44 PM
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Up until I learned of the oneness of God I had believed that I would see three in heaven. Or at least two and that the Holy Ghost wouldn't of been able to be seen.
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11-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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Whether they call it 'three gods' or 'three persons' it's still a lie from the pits of Hell.
Most of the trinitarians that I'm friends with are quick to tell you about three persons in one god. I'm sorry folks, but that is too close to damnable heresy for me to be comfortable climbing in the saddle with them.
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11-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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Who Started The LIE?
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Originally Posted by The Dean
Whether they call it 'three gods' or 'three persons' it's still a lie from the pits of Hell.
Most of the trinitarians that I'm friends with are quick to tell you about three persons in one god. I'm sorry folks, but that is too close to damnable heresy for me to be comfortable climbing in the saddle with them.
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This is the problem exactly - you know its a lie and you wont address it because you are threatened by the answer!
I am secure enough in my belief in the Revelation of Jesus Christ that I am not threatened theologically. The Revelation I have came from GOD and not a ONENESS Bible school teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher.
Why do you think that someone is asking you to be "comfortable in climbing in the saddle with them"? No one is asking that!
I am just asking WHO STARTED THE LIE?????????????
We all have sense enough and have heard it a million times or more and know the TRINITARIAN doctrine more than the Trinitarians themselves.
THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!
You might want to read the questions again.
WHO STARTED THE LIE?
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11-01-2007, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
This is the problem exactly - you know its a lie and you wont address it because you are threatened by the answer!
I am secure enough in my belief in the Revelation of Jesus Christ that I am not threatened theologically. The Revelation I have came from GOD and not a ONENESS Bible school teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher that had been taught by another ONENESS Bible School teacher.
Why do you think that someone is asking you to be "comfortable in climbing in the saddle with them"? No one is asking that!
I am just asking WHO STARTED THE LIE?????????????
We all have sense enough and have heard it a million times or more and know the TRINITARIAN doctrine more than the Trinitarians themselves.
THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!
You might want to read the questions again.
WHO STARTED THE LIE?
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I know what is a lie? The trinity?
That may well be the only thing I've agreed with you about in a while.
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11-01-2007, 09:34 PM
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AB,
You're question of who started the lie of there being three Gods would lead back to many COG and AOG churches. I have had family on both my mother and father's side of the family who attended those churches and to many the Godhead was a mystery, indeed.
My mother when asked how many thrones were in heaven replied, "There are three thrones, one for the Father, one for the Son and one for the Holy Ghost". The confusion wasn't the fault of the ones who have had a revelation of the Oneness of God, but from the very pulpit of those that have been leading their followers in this erroneous doctrine.
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11-01-2007, 08:59 PM
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I was told by some folks I met knocking on doors in Pensacola, FL. that they were trinity and that they believed in three Gods.
That was the only time i ever heard a trinitarian claim this.
There a many trinitarins that will tell you the believe in only one God, and would fight if you told them they believed in three.
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