Actually, it's a pretty good analogy.
To make it fit even better, it would say "Assume there is a club for men (and women) where by joining they are given a new "old" car. This could even be a typical college shop class. Would the FIRST thing involved in restoring it be a new wash and wax? Or would you gut the interior and remove the engine?"
The first thing is that the women would be told, "There is no mention of a female performing any of this maintenance in the manual, therefore they are not allowed to do it."
A lot has been addressed about this in general. I guess the comment about "being charismatic" caught my attention more so.
That is so paradigm. So if you don't adhere to the standards you are referring to you are "charismatic"? I have to tell you how out of touch that is in the real world. It almost makes me think, this is an individual who has very limited communication outside pentecostal circles.
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I am so frustrated with people today!
Why is it that when anyone of our people (Ladies especially) hold up "traditional" standards of dress they are automatically deemed as unfashionable?
My good wife wears skirts well below her knees and she is extremely fashionable. She does not look frumpy, weird, old lady or anything!
She looks like a lady who is worshipping her God in the beauty of holiness. Just because she doesn't have a tug-of-war match with her skirt every service does not make her archaic!
And this is not about my wife. I am using her as an example.
And just who determines fashion anyway? Is it a Spirit filled, modesty loving person? I don't think so! So why do we attempt to measure up to them?
I remember a scripture that says We are in the world but not of the world!
Why is there an assault on the holiness loving people that uphold outward standards to protect inward holiness? And why are these assualts coming from those that once were apart of us?
If you want to be charismatic then be charismatic but please stop trying to shove your so called "liberty" down my throat!!!!
A lot has been addressed about this in general. I guess the comment about "being charismatic" caught my attention more so.
That is so paradigm. So if you don't adhere to the standards you are referring to you are "charismatic"? I have to tell you how out of touch that is in the real world. It almost makes me think, this is an individual who has very limited communication outside pentecostal circles.
Get used to it. Once you let go of standards around here you are instantly labeled charismatic.
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Actually, it's a pretty good analogy.
To make it fit even better, it would say "Assume there is a club for men (and women) where by joining they are given a new "old" car. This could even be a typical college shop class. Would the FIRST thing involved in restoring it be a new wash and wax? Or would you gut the interior and remove the engine?"
And afterwards, like you already mentioned, would it be more important to do the things you said.
THEN watch the endless debates about how often it needs to be washed and waxed and what soap and wax brand is appropriate and what COLOR the exterior needs to be painted......
Women should be warned that their washing and waxing would have a lot more steps to go thru than the men.
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Question here, and I'm sure many will cry foul, or at least claim incompatibility.
But, let's say a young man gets his first automobile. Is it more important to teach him how to change the oil, change the air filter, tune the engine up and put gas in the car regularly, or is it more important to teach him how to wash and wax the car?
I feel sorry for some of you folks.. you must have had preachers in your past who hammered on outward dress everytime they got into the pulpit... you seem to hate it so much.
My pastor spends about 1% of his sermon time on outward dress... (or on oil changes etc as you put it)
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
I feel sorry for some of you folks.. you must have had preachers in your past who hammered on outward dress everytime they got into the pulpit... you seem to hate it so much.
My pastor spends about 1% of his sermon time on outward dress... (or on oil changes etc as you put it)
Actually, the outward dress would be the washing and waxing...
Women should be warned that their washing and waxing would have a lot more steps to go thru than the men.
At least 12 or 13 more..... Books would be written. Sermons preached! Endless radio debates and web sites devoted to "Contending" for the old paths where women were only allowed to wax the SIDES of the car lest they be seen 'bending over' the hood from behind.
Meanwhile.... someone on the other side of the street is busy tuning up his engine and flushing his coolant in preparation for Winter.
Emphasis is not always verbal. It matters more how it is addressed, not how often. I have seen it done in anger while pointing at a teen that had....frizzy hair. You could hear a pin drop aftwards. See, that was over 10 years ago and I haven't forgot it. Later, there were people that backslid so far in that congregation that make that look pretty petty.
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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW
I feel sorry for some of you folks.. you must have had preachers in your past who hammered on outward dress everytime they got into the pulpit... you seem to hate it so much.
My pastor spends about 1% of his sermon time on outward dress... (or on oil changes etc as you put it)
Don' Take Your Organs to Heaven!
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