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Old 11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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His inconsistent stance is a major reason the television res passed.

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This in fact is the confusing contradiction of those who preach the "no TV/control the internet" doctrine of technology holiness standards...

Especially when most of what they preach against on TV can be accessed on the internet....and worse....
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:23 AM
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Why do these men think it's necessary to legitimize their kingdoms at every waking moment?
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:26 AM
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Well, the ones that are willing to go on TV and preach probably won't be the ones that are so gungho to lay out the clothesline, ya know?
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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Did you Hear about Larry Booker's Latest controversial message???????

here are bits and pieces (quotes) taken from it.


give your opinion, good or bad so that we can discuss it.



Booker told his church this past sunday night about how the tv vote went - said the organization took a turn towards destruction. He also said he was suprised at how many ministers nationwide are not happy.


Booker went on to say that the day of the vote was such an emotional day of sadness just like when JFK was shot and when the towers were hit on 9/11. He got the same feeling when the vote passed as on 9/11.


It is interesting to note that the original vote against tv took place in Tulsa in 1955 - maybe that's why they picked Tulsa as the place to form the new organization - to make a statement?


Also, Tommy Craft went to see Ken Phillips before the vote and apparently Wanda Phillips pleaded with Tommy Craft saying "don't let the movement (upc) go the way we did in regards to television. TV will steal everything from you"

crying and screaming Booker said in his message "me and and many other good men refuse to go that route - we will stand for holiness"


gave an example of how the PAW lost its standards and holiness.


said he would still fellowship his close (ulta-con) friends that stay in the upc
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Allright! My Dad John Eckstadt left Jackson college in 1975 and moved us to Ft. Worth where he taught at Mark Hanby's Wide World Of Ministries Bible College.

Right in the heart of Mark Hanby and Kenneth Phillips talking about buying a TV Studio.

When we left Jackson Tommy Craft said scaving things to my Dad about his leaving and about both Mark Hanby and Kenneth Phillips.

I know that MH and KP have gone in their directions over the past 30 years.

I don't believe for a moment that Kenneth or Wanda Phillips talked to him or made any of these statements.

I also saw Tommy Craft within feet of MH and KP at a preconference rally at the Capus Drive Church of Mark Hanby in 1975.

I see Kenneth Phillips on Friday Night Lights. He does not look beated down because of TV.

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Old 11-19-2007, 10:45 AM
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His altar call was to call all the kids 12 and under to the platform....

He used the as an object lesson to say, This is why we are not going that way...these kids deserve a chance to be a part of a move of God....to get drunk on the Holy Ghost....We're not goingto let them go to hell in a hand basket....I want my babies to feel and know God"

That'll pull the ole heartstrings and solidify the young couples to his new direction...

BTW THAD, did you notice how he didn't use any scripture past his text? All he did was tell one "horror story" after the next about ex-UPC preachers and churches.....glad to see his sermon so heavily rooted in the word....
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.

I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:48 AM
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His altar call was to call all the kids 12 and under to the platform....

He used the as an object lesson to say, This is why we are not going that way...these kids deserve a chance to be a part of a move of God....to get drunk on the Holy Ghost....We're not goingto let them go to hell in a hand basket....I want my babies to feel and know God"

That'll pull the ole heartstrings and solidify the young couples to his new direction...

BTW THAD, did you notice how he didn't use any scripture past his text? All he did was tell one "horror story" after the next about ex-UPC preachers and churches.....glad to see his sermon so heavily rooted in the word....
Scare tactics! This is really sad. I feel sorry for the kids. This is how we end up so brain washed.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:50 AM
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Scare tactics! This is really sad. I feel sorry for the kids. This is how we end up so brain washed.
This is so typical of this bunch of people...rule by fear.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:08 AM
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His altar call was to call all the kids 12 and under to the platform....

He used the as an object lesson to say, This is why we are not going that way...these kids deserve a chance to be a part of a move of God....to get drunk on the Holy Ghost....We're not goingto let them go to hell in a hand basket....I want my babies to feel and know God"

That'll pull the ole heartstrings and solidify the young couples to his new direction...

BTW THAD, did you notice how he didn't use any scripture past his text? All he did was tell one "horror story" after the next about ex-UPC preachers and churches.....glad to see his sermon so heavily rooted in the word....
What was his prooftext ..... who knew the bean patch needed protecting?

Guess who has been deputized as the bean patch PROTECTOR?
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:13 AM
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What was his prooftext ..... who knew the bean patch needed protecting?

Guess who has been deputized as the bean patch PROTECTOR?
2 Samuel 23 beginning with verse 8....
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I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

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Old 11-19-2007, 11:16 AM
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2 Samuel 23 beginning with verse 8....
Interesting that he would use David's men as his text ... the destitute, indebted, and the lowly ... AND BEARDED.

too bad they're not allowed in his church unless they've shaven ...
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