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Old 01-29-2008, 06:59 PM
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Re: Changes in the UPC over the past 30 years

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It is weird to think on March 13th 2008 it will have been 30 years since my Dad, Bible teacher and evangelist John A Eckstadt passed away.

Since his death here are some changes in Pentecost.

1. Sermon's on the soon coming of Christ (almost gone).

2. Sermon's on Sin (Not standards) sin.

3. Those week long revivals.

4. Young men growing up with a desire to be a minister (Who's hero is a minister)

5. Bible teaching is a lost art.

6. We have exchanged Bible teaching on Wednesday night for coffee cake and gossip night. We call it home fellowship night.

7. Fellowship used to be at Stuckey's or Steak & Shake on Sunday night after church. That is where we as kids in the past generation made our friendships.

8. We had smaller churches and buildings but we used them more.

9. Pastor's I am convinced spent more time on their sermon preparation.

10. We have moved into the Google a sermon generation. Many of the young ministers could not tell you who Matthew Henry or Charles Spurgeon was...

11. The King James version of the bible has been replaced with the Instant Message version. Jesus said, "I AM" not "IM".

12 We exchanged the word in our sermon's from "faith" to "Sow".

13. The word "faith" was in relation to Moving spiritual mountains, the word "Sow" today that replaced "faith" means prosperity with a sprinkel of health and well being. Today you only reap what you sow when you give, not with what you do!

14. The modern day book in the religious section of the book store quotes Zig Ziglar more than Jesus.

15. Sermon's from the Old testement are old fashioned.

16. Songs are written less about Jesus and more about how to be his friend.

17. Preaching on hell is a thing of the past. Most modern day Pentecostals believe in Angels but would tell you demons are not manifested beings.

18. Just flat out good preaching seems to be dying out. That has to be one reason for mega churches. If you are one of the few to have it they will come.

19. Busing is a thing of the past.

20. Dressing your best each service is the thing of the past.

21. Popping into your pastor's office without an appointment is the thing of the past.

22. That one usher that all the kids were afraid of is a thing of the past.

23. Those sunday school teacher couples that you remember the rest of your life is a thing of the past.

24. The move of God is more modern. I remember when even in the 1980's that when the move of God started in a service. We would see men praying with each other. Woman would be praying with each other.

25. Some of the real not Benny Hinn miracles, I have witnessed were seen in a spirit filled church march.


26. How about the service in your church that you will remember for 30 years.

I remember some but they are 20 years old. Our memories of the move of God are short anymore.

I think we now live in the moment and have forgotten that God does not live in a single moment.

He transends time and it is about time we start building memories that help substain the next generation....

Very good post, Necker!

I especially agree with #5.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:56 PM
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And still yet, you and I both have asked for, and recieved, forgiveness of sin AFTER our enlightenment to Christ. Correct?

The acknowledgement of our continual need of him is the key to living life in the Spirit.
Yes but I don't serve sin,serve is to sin by habit,that is do the same sin over and over.If a person does the same sin over and over they have not repented of all sin.
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Yes but I don't serve sin,serve is to sin by habit,that is do the same sin over and over.If a person does the same sin over and over they have not repented of all sin.

Bless you. It may not be an "enslavement" and it hopefully is not that same sin over and over... NEVERTHELESS, you and I NEED him - all the time. Our "goodness" quite simply is not enough! Our lack of sin falls far short.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:49 PM
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If we are truly saved, we don't serve with the flesh the law of sin.Paul was talking about when he was under the law or before he got filled with the Holy Ghost.He said who shall deliever me from this body of sin? I thank Jesus he will.

Rom 7:1: Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? (Dominion because of knowledge of sin)
2: For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3: So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man. (We are dead to the law so we are free from the Law)4: Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5: For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6: But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7: What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8: But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9: For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10: And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11: For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12: Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13: Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14: For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. (Before he became dead to the Law)(Note carnel in verse 8:6)
15: For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16: If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17: Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18: For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19: For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20: Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21: I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22: For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24: O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25: I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then (Then is before he got filled with the Holy Ghost)with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin
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Changes in the UPC over the past 30 years.....

Younger pastors who love pulpit ministry but aren't so interested in interacting with and caring for the people they're supposed to be shepherding.
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8:1: There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2: For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5: For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6: For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10: And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of (a knowledge of) sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11: But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12: Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13: For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live
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14: For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God
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Re: Changes in the UPC over the past 30 years

Joelel, What are you trying to convey with these passages?
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All I am saying is you and I fall short.

Sometimes we don't walk after the Spirit.

We aren't perfect, and our hope is in our confession to Christ.
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All I am saying is you and I fall short.

Sometimes we don't walk after the Spirit.

We aren't perfect, and our hope is in this confession.
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All I am saying is you and I fall short.

Sometimes we don't walk after the Spirit.

We aren't perfect, and our hope is in our confession to Christ.
I don't know about you but I sure do.
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