CeCe Winans under fire for singing at Gay church - Page 2

chosenbyone · #1 02-06-2008, 04:02 PM

CeCe is a Holy Ghost filled woman and who are we to question where the Lord would have her minister? Remember, homosexuality is NOT the main issue! Often, the life of the homosexual is filled with a lot of brokenness, shame by those in the church, being rejected over and over and over; one who often doesn't measure up to everyone else; one who is is either frustrated because he/she doesnt like the fact that they are attracted to the same sex or; one who embraces the attraction and searches for Mr. or Mrs. Right, (of the same sex) and is let down time and time again, feeling more rejection, abuse and loneliness. They are really in search of LOVE - in the true sense!

Are we not compelled as Christians to accept them, embrace them and not be afraid to come alongside and help them figure life out? Too often, the church looks at the outside of the person with disgust and they dont take time to look at the heart and show them the love of Christ!

I fear that many will have to give an account to God one day because of the way they treat his children.

Praxeas · #2 02-06-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chosenbyone

CeCe is a Holy Ghost filled woman and who are we to question where the Lord would have her minister?

Remember, homosexuality is NOT the main issue! Often, the life of the homosexual is filled with a lot of brokenness, shame by those in the church, being rejected over and over and over; one who often doesn't measure up to everyone else; one who is is either frustrated because he/she doesnt like the fact that they are attracted to the same sex or; one who embraces the attraction and searches for Mr. or Mrs. Right, (of the same sex) and is let down time and time again, feeling more rejection, abuse and loneliness. They are really in search of LOVE - in the true sense!

Are we not compelled as Christians to accept them, embrace them and not be afraid to come alongside and help them figure life out? Too often, the church looks at the outside of the person with disgust and they dont take time to look at the heart and show them the love of Christ!

I fear that many will have to give an account to God one day because of the way they treat his children.

First of all you are assuming she was led by the Spirit to do this. Being holy ghost filled does not ensure someone does not make mistakes and this is a mistake and she needs to listen to what others are saying.

Second these are Homosexuals that have probably HEARD what you just said here and rejected it. They believe they ARE saved Homosexuals. Unless she is going there to preach and teach that they need to come OUT of that lifestyle then the kind of ministering we are talking about is not the kind they need and ends up just giving a seal of approval on this kind of church and that kind of lifestyle.

Anyone thing she will stand up and say "I came here to minister to you but before anyone thinks I approve of the gay lifestyle I do not. It still is an abomination"

These gay affirming churches are GROWING. They are not emptying out and gays becoming straight. Rather it's the other way around. Gays who become Christians are being deceived into believing God is ok with them being in a homosexual relationship

Weary Pilgrim · #3 02-06-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

You know, this is just a dumb question if you think about it.

How do you reach the lost?

If the word is not convicting them,what makes you think CeCe's singing will?

If you think that her holding a concert at a gay affirming church is going to turn their thinking around you are wrong

Ron · #4 02-06-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Jim

If the word is not convicting them,what makes you think CeCe's singing will?

If you think that her holding a concert at a gay affirming church is going to turn their thinking around you are wrong

I would tend to agree!

Sherri · #5 02-06-2008, 04:48 PM

I guess I understand what she's trying to do, but it seems that they would take this as an endorsement of what they are doing/living. I cannot see her agreeing with their lifestyle, but I've been shocked before!

ReformedDave · #6 02-06-2008, 05:18 PM

She's going to perform in a building that is called a 'church' and supposedly is to be used to worship God. By appearing there she is 'affirming' their position whether she wants to or not. Is she going to present the bad news of their lifestyle and the good news that God can save and change their orientation? I'd really be surprised if she does.

This is the extreme opposite of Fred Phelps.....and just as dangerous.

SOUNWORTHY · #7 03-11-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Diamond Jim

If the word is not convicting them,what makes you think CeCe's singing will?

If you think that her holding a concert at a gay affirming church is going to turn their thinking around you are wrong

I would agree completely!! This is the lowest form of sin. I'm afraid we have become very soft on sin and associating with sin. We must love the sinner but hate their sins.

tv1a · #8 03-11-2008, 08:58 PM

You miss the point. The point was should Cece talk about homosexuality. If she does, she should talk about all the other sin that's representative in that church, not just pick on one sin.

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

I would agree completely!! This is the lowest form of sin. I'm afraid we have become very soft on sin and associating with sin. We must love the sinner but hate their sins.

TRFrance · #9 03-12-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

I would agree completely!! This is the lowest form of sin. I'm afraid we have become very soft on sin and associating with sin. We must love the sinner but hate their sins.

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Originally Posted by tv1a

You miss the point. The point was should Cece talk about homosexuality. If she does, she should talk about all the other sin that's representative in that church, not just pick on one sin.

Nonsense, buddy. YOU are the one missing the point, and I don't know why its so hard to see; its as if you're turning a blind eye to the obvious.

There's sin in every church,but this church has made a name for itself by proclaiming itself to be "gay-accepting". This church and this pastor have made a bold statement that they don't feel homosexuality is wrong, and they welcome homosexuals without requiring that they change their behavior. Thus, lets not pretend that gossiping, lying, and "all the other sin" are on the same level in this context here.

If Victory Church hadn't openly and defiantly embraced the sin of homosexuality the way it has, most of us wouldn't even have heard of them.

TRFrance · #10 02-06-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

You know, this is just a dumb question if you think about it.

How do you reach the lost?

A dumb question? Please!

There's a BIG difference between singing to mere unbelievers, to expose them to the word... and singing to unrepentant homosexual "Christians". These people have rejected the clear biblical teaching regarding homosexuality, and her presence there only serves to legitimize and show approval of their error.