What New Direction?

Michael The Disciple · #1 02-20-2008, 11:40 PM

I dont have time to read most threads. Some one fill me in on the new direction. Im getting something like this is a "liberal board". Is it something new or an accumulation of things.

I have not noticed much change foundation doctrine wise. There has always been the one step verses three step contention. There have always been the dress code debates.

When it comes to foundation doctrine what has changed? Most seem to still disagree with most that I believe so I dont get it.

Elizabeth · #2 02-20-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I dont have time to read most threads. Some one fill me in on the new direction. Im getting something like this is a "liberal board". Is it something new or an accumulation of things.

I have not noticed much change foundation doctrine wise. There has always been the one step verses three step contention. There have always been the dress code debates.

When it comes to foundation doctrine what has changed? Most seem to still disagree with most that I believe so I dont get it.

No what we believe has NOT changed!!

There is no need of alarm, some of our owners have decided to move on and that is all.

The use of the word liberal regarding the matter is very very debatable, if you haven't noticed already.

CC1 · #3 02-20-2008, 11:54 PM

M the D,

Many of the conservatives who once were key members of AFF have left. However many yet remain. Mostly the ones leaving were high profile posters who are preachers.

The perception is that AFF has become liberal over time. If there has been a shift in the balance of the posts it is because many of the conservatives and ultra conservatives stopped posting.

Some leaving expressed fatigue at feeling that their closely cherished positions on standards, doctrine, etc were being trashed. I can understand their frustration as I do believe the lib posting took a disrespectful tone the last few months in some cases.

However the solution, in my opinion, should have been to work through the issues and any imbalance there might have been.

Hopefully the conservatives and ultra cons that remain will post more and new ones will show up to fill the void and carry the mantle for orthodox old time Oneness Pentecost!

TRFrance · #4 02-21-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1

I can understand their frustration as I do believe the lib posting took a disrespectful tone the last few months in some cases.

However the solution, in my opinion, should have been to work through the issues and any imbalance there might have been.

Really? Lets see here. If someone was continually insulting your mother to your face, how long would you stand there with this person and "work through the issues"?

I think if you're like most normal people you'd probably end up A/ punching him in the mouth... or 2/ just walking away.

I think its naive to think that most of these people who left should have just hung around to "work though the issues".

Praxeas · #5 02-21-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I dont have time to read most threads. Some one fill me in on the new direction. Im getting something like this is a "liberal board". Is it something new or an accumulation of things.

I have not noticed much change foundation doctrine wise. There has always been the one step verses three step contention. There have always been the dress code debates.

When it comes to foundation doctrine what has changed? Most seem to still disagree with most that I believe so I dont get it.

There is no change in the board. There is a change in owners/Admins and a few members who felt they can't be members here. From the poll taken this board is NOT a liberal board by any means

Jekyll · #6 02-21-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

There is no change in the board. There is a change in owners/Admins and a few members who felt they can't be members here. From the poll taken this board is NOT a liberal board by any means

This means nothing.

The pot thinks the kettle is black.

rgcraig · #7 02-21-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll

This means nothing.

The pot thinks the kettle is black.

If posters as yourself will just post substance we'll be fine!

Posters here love God, the Word of God and God's people - - this is a place that we can come together and have all that in common.

We need to focus on the positive more and less on the negative. When we take our focus off God and on to man is when things get rocky.

What has God done for you lately?

Digging4Truth · #8 02-21-2008, 07:53 AM

I don't post & read here enough to even begin to know what these people are talking about unless what I have seen in my off and on readings of most of the arguments that go on around here are what the big gripe is.

Unless there are some wild attacks from crazed posters that I am missing it looks to me that the big issue with some is that to have the audacity to question is tantamount to an attack.

Differing ideas in an arena of discussion are necessary for growth in anyone. Iron does sharpen iron but only when said iron is moving in opposite directions. Iron sitting side by side does not sharpen iron. It is iron in opposition that creates the sharpening effect.

F. Scott Fitzgerald once said "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function."

Strength is not a lack of opposition. Strength is shown & known of all only in the face of opposition.

I think that, in this day and age, many (not just those leaving) lack the ability to discuss things objectively with those who disagree. A true ability to enter into an arena of discussion which is conducive to learning & growth is a rare commodity in this day and age.

It has been my observation that when a thought is expressed that the opposing view will then argue, not what they have said, but their interpretation of what has been said. That interpretation will tend to be some far out extrapolation of what one side feels like the other sides motives are. (And this happens on both sides.)

To many it is a constant source of aggravation that those of opposing views are even allowed to exist and speak their minds. (Again.. both sides)

Then there are those who are the final blow to such a volatile mix. The pot stirrers. Those who have caustic voices and don't seem to possess the ability to have a discussion without stirring up the most base of human emotion and seem to thrive on doing so.

Many, many good people reside here. Fewer as the days go by. Many great things have been learned here as well. But the ability to speak to a brother who has differing views with respect to that brother and with an ear to actually hear what they are saying and a willingness to have meaningful dialog is key to the survival of an arena of discussion such as this one.

When a place is made for the sole purpose of discussion opposing views an ability to properly discuss opposing views might just come in handy.

But, alas, the call of this particular day and hour we live in, (both on and off line) is to segregate ourselves from those who have the audacity to not agree with us. It seems to be happening everywhere we look these days and it appears to be a testament of the mindset of this particular place in history.

TRFrance · #9 02-21-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

If posters as yourself will just post substance we'll be fine!

Posters here love God, the Word of God and God's people - - this is a place that we can come together and have all that in common.

We need to focus on the positive more and less on the negative. When we take our focus off God and on to man is when things get rocky.

What has God done for you lately?

Its not just about posters posting substance. Its also about the ownership setting standards of decency also, and not allowing things to get out of hand like they have in the past.

If the new leadership allows the same kind of obnoxious and disrespectful behavior as they have in the past, and if they're unwilling to reprimand and/or ban the more obnoxious offenders, they'll just continue to lose good people from this forum.

Digging4Truth · #10 02-21-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Its not just about posters posting substance. Its also about the ownership setting standards of decency also, and not allowing things to get out of hand like they have in the past.

If the new leadership allows the same kind of obnoxious and disrespectful behavior as they have in the past, and if they're unwilling to reprimand and/or ban the more obnoxious offenders, they'll just continue to lose good people from this forum.

Could you post a few links to posts that illustrate this obnoxious & disrespectful behavior so I can see what you are speaking of?

Actually a PM might be better because the poster might take offense at having their posts pointed out as such.

Thanks