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03-02-2008, 04:05 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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I want to add my 2 cents but I need to go back and read and see how the conversation turned to Spanish Ministry...
Again, I need to read through the thread, but since I started typing.
#1 I'm IN FAVOR of the Spanish division or dept.
#2 Time to stop looking at Spanish minsitries as some "daughter work" Spanish Ministries is NOT a 'home missions work' anymore. It is the fastest growing segment of the UPCI.
#3 If this doesn't go through, eventually there will be a split.
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TN, seems to have some inside info that the bill will be placed in the hands of Spanish churches .... as if other divisions are structured and funded in this manner.
What say ye, CP? You and I have been around this all our lives .... we know that the stakes are high. I sure hope the GB does too.
The split would come from very good and loyal men ... that would be sad.
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03-02-2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
BTW, the general board decided to raise the General Conference registration fee from $25 to $50 this year.
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03-02-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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BTW, the general board decided to raise the General Conference registration fee from $25 to $50 this year.
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What a great way to increase the crowds at conf. raise the fee to $50.00 and $75 for lat reg. hen one can enjoy the two to three hours offerings.
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03-03-2008, 05:27 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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BTW, the general board decided to raise the General Conference registration fee from $25 to $50 this year.
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That's still only pocket change for conference goers.
Anybody who doesn't like it can put $50 less in the offerings, and anybody who's not planning to put at least $50 in the collection barrels should stay home.
People who like to complain will always find a cause for whining.
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03-03-2008, 07:56 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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That's still only pocket change for conference goers.
Anybody who doesn't like it can put $50 less in the offerings, and anybody who's not planning to put at least $50 in the collection barrels should stay home.
People who like to complain will always find a cause for whining.
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I know alot of pastor and preachers that might would go to conf and $50.00 is not pocket change to them. I know to me when I go to GC that is two day allotment for food. Not every pastor is rich, many live on a tight budget and work secular job to make end meet. But I guess one is not important unless they pastor 500 or more.
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03-03-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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I know alot of pastor and preachers that might would go to conf and $50.00 is not pocket change to them. I know to me when I go to GC that is two day allotment for food. Not every pastor is rich, many live on a tight budget and work secular job to make end meet. But I guess one is not important unless they pastor 500 or more.
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I can only think of two reasons to go to a General Conference:
1) You've got money to burn.
2) You're on a per diem from some level of the org.
In either of these two cases, $50 is chump change.
I can't think of any reason why any pastor on a budget would spend their hard earned money on General Conference. There are better uses for your conference dollars.
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03-03-2008, 09:13 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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I can only think of two reasons to go to a General Conference:
1) You've got money to burn.
2) You're on a per diem from some level of the org.
In either of these two cases, $50 is chump change.
I can't think of any reason why any pastor on a budget would spend their hard earned money on General Conference. There are better uses for your conference dollars.
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03-03-2008, 09:22 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
Thank the Lord GC 2009 will greatly reduce my conference expenses.....
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03-03-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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I know alot of pastor and preachers that might would go to conf and $50.00 is not pocket change to them. I know to me when I go to GC that is two day allotment for food. Not every pastor is rich, many live on a tight budget and work secular job to make end meet. But I guess one is not important unless they pastor 500 or more.
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WH, I'll agree with you.
I think it's a lot of money to pay to go to our own General Conference.
We already pay National Dues, District Dues/Tithes.
Thankfully a minister does NOT have to pay to enter the business sessions.
I don't think will help attendance at all.
It now costs a family of four $200 to go to GC, on top of travel expenses.
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03-03-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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WH, I'll agree with you.
I think it's a lot of money to pay to go to our own General Conference.
We already pay National Dues, District Dues/Tithes.
Thankfully a minister does NOT have to pay to enter the business sessions.
I don't think will help attendance at all.
It now costs a family of four $200 to go to GC, on top of travel expenses.
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We are a family of four. TO think that before we leave home or do anything it';s $200.00 off the top. I might could do that now, but in the past no way. When in home mission and trying to go to GC, it was motel 6 and McDonald dollar menu, you think we could have afford and extra $200.00?
I believe that these men should be able to have a vote and go to the service, but with this extra expense I don't see how they can.
Are we becoming a rich man org.?
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