Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?

[Jehoram]

Someone help us out here.

Is there a record of Paul preaching rpeentance, baptism and HG infilling to an unsaved person?

[Jehoram]

Paul's Mars Hill Sermon

Acts 17:

22Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

23For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

24God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

28For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

30And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

32And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.

33So Paul departed from among them.

34Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and believed: among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

Again, he preached the death, burial and resurrection.

No mention of baptism.

Why?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Paul's Mars Hill Sermon

Acts 17:



Again, he preached the death, burial and resurrection.

No mention of baptism.

Why?

Maybe baptism isn't even relevant until after repentance? I don't know, AE, why don't you share your own conclusion?

"Why no mention of baptism?"

[Jehoram]

In Pisidian Antioch Acts 13

13From Paphos, Paul and his companions sailed to Perga in Pamphylia, where John left them to return to Jerusalem. 14From Perga they went on to Pisidian Antioch. On the Sabbath they entered the synagogue and sat down. 15After the reading from the Law and the Prophets, the synagogue rulers sent word to them, saying, "Brothers, if you have a message of encouragement for the people, please speak."
16Standing up, Paul motioned with his hand and said: "Men of Israel and you Gentiles who worship God, listen to me! 17The God of the people of Israel chose our fathers; he made the people prosper during their stay in Egypt, with mighty power he led them out of that country, 18he endured their conduct[a] for about forty years in the desert, 19he overthrew seven nations in Canaan and gave their land to his people as their inheritance. 20All this took about 450 years.

"After this, God gave them judges until the time of Samuel the prophet. 21Then the people asked for a king, and he gave them Saul son of Kish, of the tribe of Benjamin, who ruled forty years. 22After removing Saul, he made David their king. He testified concerning him: 'I have found David son of Jesse a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.'

23"From this man's descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised. 24Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel. 25As John was completing his work, he said: 'Who do you think I am? I am not that one. No, but he is coming after me, whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.'

26"Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent. 27The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath. 28Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed. 29When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb. 30But God raised him from the dead, 31and for many days he was seen by those who had traveled with him from Galilee to Jerusalem. They are now his witnesses to our people.

32"We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm:
" 'You are my Son;
today I have become your Father.[b]'[c] 34The fact that God raised him from the dead, never to decay, is stated in these words:
" 'I will give you the holy and sure blessings promised to David.'[d] 35So it is stated elsewhere:
" 'You will not let your Holy One see decay.'[e]

36"For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed. 37But the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay.

38"Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses. 40Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you:
41" 'Look, you scoffers,
wonder and perish,
for I am going to do something in your days
that you would never believe,
even if someone told you.'[f]"

No mention of baptism.

[MissBrattified]

I don't know if I'm right or not. LOL. I'm just suppositioning (is that a word?) right along with you.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

What is the meaning of this passage?

Why did Paul say that Christ had not sent him to baptize? In verse 17, Is Paul separating baptism from "the Gospel?" What is your interpretation?

10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ."
13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? 14 I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 So no one can say that you were baptized into my name. 16(Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

AE,
Going further up in the scripture you are citing here I'm wondering what Paul means by this portion of scripture.

I Cor 1:5-7 "That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge; (6) Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: (7) So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:"

What was the "testimony of Christ" confirmed in him? It seems like it had to have been something that was visibly seen. In order NOT to come behind in any gift from God, he had to have this testimony.

He says in verse 7 - "....waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Col 2:12 "Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."

It appears that he can't make heaven if he isn't baptized.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

What is the meaning of this passage?

Why did Paul say that Christ had not sent him to baptize? In verse 17, Is Paul separating baptism from "the Gospel?" What is your interpretation?

10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ."
13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? 14 I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 So no one can say that you were baptized into my name. 16(Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

Someone else can do it.In many assemblies the pastor don't do much baptizing.It don't have to be anyone.You can call on the name of the Lord and jump iin the water.The word don't even say someone else has to touch you.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Someone else can do it.In many assemblies the pastor don't do much baptizing.It don't have to be anyone.You can call on the name of the Lord and jump iin the water.The word don't even say someone else has to touch you.

Joel!! This guy visited our church and I don't know why they asked him to testify!

He said, "Well, I've been baptized three times. One time in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Second time in Jesus name and the third time I took it upon myself and jumped in the creek."

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Joel!! This guy visited our church and I don't know why they asked him to testify!

He said, "Well, I've been baptized three times. One time in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Second time in Jesus name and the third time I took it upon myself and jumped in the creek."

I just think it's funny how so many different people think you must get baptized their way.One thinks you got to get baptized in the river,another says you can't hold your nose,another says you got to get baptized by them.The word don't say what should be said except you are to call on the name of the Lord.It don't say someone must put you under the water.What I believe is,they all went to the river and all called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I do believe you must call on the name of the Lord, that most don't do.

Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Joelel

I just think it's funny how so many different people think you must get baptized their way.One thinks you got to get baptized in the river,another says you can't hold your nose,another says you got to get baptized by them.The word don't say what should be said except you are to call on the name of the Lord.It don't say someone must put you under the water.What I believe is,they all went to the river and all called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I do believe you must call on the name of the Lord, that most don't do.

Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord.

Joel, you're a trip!

John 3:16 "John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:"

I'm pretty sure they didn't line up and say, "One for the money, two for the show, three to get ready and four to goooooooo".....jump, splash.....

You're a trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!