Why are some x-UPCers so set on bashing the UPC???

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I don't buy this "Well they weren't really your friends then" because of the fact that when circumstances change, you change, and you leave the "group" .... fellowship might be broken. I know that fellowship can be broken over some things ..... a lot depends on the particulars of the circumstances or situations.

Please don't tell me that those people were never my friends just because fellowship was broken. I know better.



*talking to nobody specifically here*

I think you should define "friend". I think what some folks call "friends" are really "aquaintences".

I would think a true friend would stick through thick and thin.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think you should define "friend". I think what some folks call "friends" are really "aquaintences".

I would think a true friend would stick through thick and thin.

Felicity, the post right above yours said this... then your message was right under it saying that they were friends in ever sense of the word... Putting the two messages together, I got a chuckle out of it.... I did read your post. : )

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I don't buy this "Well they weren't really your friends then" because of the fact that when circumstances change, you change, and you leave the "group" .... fellowship might be broken. I know that fellowship can be broken over some things ..... a lot depends on the particulars of the circumstances or situations.

Please don't tell me that those people were never my friends just because fellowship was broken. I know better.



*talking to nobody specifically here*

You sure you weren't talking to me??? If so I'm sitting right here!

[Revelationist]

Recon that's what those inside the JW's say too?

[Felicity]

They were real friends in every sense of the word.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Felicity

They were real friends in every sense of the word.

I can believe that! Sometimes to protect one's position or reputation, they are forced to back away from fellowship. I think both sides must understand this principal and except it.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I can believe that! Sometimes to protect one's position or reputation, they are forced to back away from fellowship. I think both sides must understand this principal and except it.

It wasn't all them. Probably I didn't take advantage enough of the relationship that was there.

Still though.........when you back away from the group you fellowshipped with for many years and start doing things that are considered "backward-ness" spiritually speaking to them, it's only to be expected there's going to be a break to a certain extent at least in regard to fellowship.

Like I said, I KNOW that the people who were once close acquaintances and personal friends still love me. There's no doubt in my mind about that at all.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Felicity

It wasn't all them. Probably I didn't take advantage enough of the relationship that was there.

Still though.........when you back away from the group you fellowshipped with for many years and start doing things that are considered "backward-ness" spiritually speaking to them, it's only to be expected there's going to be a break to a certain extent at least in regard to fellowship.

Like I said, I KNOW that the people who were once close acquaintances and personal friends still love me. There's no doubt in my mind about that at all.

You would probably be welcomed in their homes, but not their pulpit!

I'm like you, in that I didn't burn any bridges with any of my UPC friends. I still keep in touch with many of them even until this day. Last week, one of my best friends ever (who is still an ultra-con PAJC'er) came through Nashville and called me up to meet for lunch!

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

You would probably be welcomed in their homes, but not their pulpit!

I'm like you, in that I didn't burn any bridges with any of my UPC friends. I still keep in touch with many of them even until this day. Last week, one of my best friends ever (who is still an ultra-con PAJC'er) came through Nashville and called me up to meet for lunch!

We didn't burn any bridges either, but I think it's a little different for pastors/preachers. Many of the people that we considered friends abandoned us back in 1991 when we left the org. I can't blame them; there was a lot of political pressure and I understand that they had to, at that time, draw a line. But a few of the brave ones continued to call us and have continued to this day. Some of the ones who turned their backs sixteen years ago now are friendly again; it just takes time. We have been out so long now that I don't think we're seen as a threat anymore. Throughout all these years though, when we would see someone, we would just hug them and act like nothing had changed, because in our eyes, it really hadn't!

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Felicity

They were real friends in every sense of the word.

What, when it got thin, they thinned out?