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Old 03-15-2007, 06:09 PM
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New rules by the hour, it seems. It is interesting to watch the metamorphosis of this forum from its original concepts. I will not disparage this forum but it may not be the place for me either. If I leave, I will leave with good-will and love for all.
Would you care to explain the metamorphosis that you have observed?
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:40 PM
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New rules by the hour, it seems. It is interesting to watch the metamorphisis of this forum from its original concepts. I will not disparage this forum but it may not be the place for me either. If I leave, I will leave with good-will and love for all.
Oh really? Can you name those new rules "by the hour"?

Also...what was this forums "original concept"? which seems an odd thing to say coming from someone that never posted before according to them..

And what's wrong with adding new rules? How do you think this nation was built? We had to add new laws as time progressed. Live and learn.

And why leave just because an admin states we won't allow the disparaging of another forum when you say you won't even disparage this one? What kind of logic is that?
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I think the probem may be that some were allowed to come on this forum and attack the FMD and then rrford. In the interest of cooperation with admin, some of us have not fully defended rrford and the FMD.

It seems as though the fix is in. I know its not, but I've received some pm's from folks wondering why we can't defend ourselves here.

FYI, I like it here, and I appreciate everything that is being done to give us a place to post. I just think the negative comments about our FMD and rrford are out of line.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:46 PM
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Speaking of the different forums, does anyone know if NFCF is going to reopen in June? There did seem to be more liberty posting there.
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Speaking of the different forums, does anyone know if NFCF is going to reopen in June? There did seem to be more liberty posting there.
I believe it's suppose to reopen in July.
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I think the probem may be that some were allowed to come on this forum and attack the FMD and then rrford. In the interest of cooperation with admin, some of us have not fully defended rrford and the FMD.

It seems as though the fix is in. I know its not, but I've received some pm's from folks wondering why we can't defend ourselves here.

FYI, I like it here, and I appreciate everything that is being done to give us a place to post. I just think the negative comments about our FMD and rrford are out of line.
I don't recall seeing any reported posts for rrford being attacked. I don't remember any reported posts over the "attacks" on the FMD.


JMO-- If people want something done about "attacks" -- hit the REPORT button on the posts that you consider to be personal attacks against a poster or against the ministry as described in the forum rules. We can't read every single post. If people REPORT the problems.. things are handled by admin without the thread/discussion being totally derailed.

The problems I've seen with posters jumping in to "defend" other posters is that the people entirely lose focus of the ISSUE at hand and it degenerates into nothing more than a US -VS- THEM thread... which ends up locked because we don't have time to do cleanup required from everyone "taking sides" and attacking each other.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:01 PM
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I think the probem may be that some were allowed to come on this forum and attack the FMD and then rrford. In the interest of cooperation with admin, some of us have not fully defended rrford and the FMD.

It seems as though the fix is in. I know its not, but I've received some pm's from folks wondering why we can't defend ourselves here.

FYI, I like it here, and I appreciate everything that is being done to give us a place to post. I just think the negative comments about our FMD and rrford are out of line.
From my perspective this is how it goes.
It was a bad topic. It was a bad topic because we don't all know all the facts. Different parties are said to be intimate to the issue and yet disagree on the facts. It became close to slanderous by raising the credibility of certain named and un-named members of that group

Censorship is bad and as Admins we find it is very difficult to have topical discussion and keep them going while also trying to keep them from going overboard. How this is handled on some boards? Stifle it all. On others? Allow it all. This is why this board is a great board because we have such diversity enough. But it really is impossible to please everyone...it is IMPOSSIBLE to please everyone.

Discussion is good. Im glad we can discuss various things because quite frankly it's bad to just bury your head in the sand and pretend everything is just fine while all around you the ship is sinking (NOT an analogy of anything in this case)....while others are afraid to discuss things objectively,

The sad part is it seems we have two extremes...those that want to discuss it for the sake of entertainment OR because they really do have a beef with some group and the other extreme of those that have the circle the wagon mentality were they are surrounded by the enemy and can't, by nature, take a good objective look at themselves.

And I think the "indians" on the outside (forgive me for the analogy) are partly to blame for the circle the wagons mentality...because they come bearing arrows, not gifts and for those outside the wagon circle they see this in reverse "why are they aiming their weapons at us?" and this cycle just gets perpetuated over and over and over.

I think that is why I miss Bro Yohe...He was UPC and was constructively introspective of the UPC and we NEED that. The first church had to tackle internal issues...they knew they had some rough edges to work out.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:05 PM
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Speaking of the different forums, does anyone know if NFCF is going to reopen in June? There did seem to be more liberty posting there.
Actually I think there was just as much liberty as here. They problem most folks did not realize is we had a balanced team of Admins and it helped to balance out the forum. But of course some folks that think it should be all the way to the RIGHT were not happy and those that thought it should be all the way to the LEFT were not happy.
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I don't recall seeing any reported posts for rrford being attacked. I don't remember any reported posts over the "attacks" on the FMD.


JMO-- If people want something done about "attacks" -- hit the REPORT button on the posts that you consider to be personal attacks against a poster or against the ministry as described in the forum rules. We can't read every single post. If people REPORT the problems.. things are handled by admin without the thread/discussion being totally derailed.

The problems I've seen with posters jumping in to "defend" other posters is that the people entirely lose focus of the ISSUE at hand and it degenerates into nothing more than a US -VS- THEM thread... which ends up locked because we don't have time to do cleanup required from everyone "taking sides" and attacking each other.

This is very true, but some issues need to be hashed out. This particular issue is all over CAF and now Wordshare with only one side of the story represented. It would have been great to see AFF be the one place where "real" DISCUSSION could have occured.

I understand why that could not be.
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This is very true, but some issues need to be hashed out. This particular issue is all over CAF and now Wordshare with only one side of the story represented. It would have been great to see AFF be the one place where "real" DISCUSSION could have occured.

I understand why that could not be.
In theory that sounds great, but the other side would more than likely been questioned to fault and ended up not really making any progress.

The little that was discussed was already met with much opposition.
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