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Old 03-19-2007, 12:17 PM
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?

AT what point does the grace of God end and his judgement begin?
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:21 PM
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?

AT what point does the grace of God end and his judgement begin?
All of us depend on God's grace and are subject to His judgment.

There is "none good" the Bible says. What did Isaiah say when he saw the Lord? He cried out..... "Woe is me. For I am a man of unclean lips and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips."

None of us are good enough to escape judgment and none of us are bad enough to miss out on His grace.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?
I feel as if I've always walked in grace and liberty even when I kept certain standards while we were licensed with the UPC and before. (I was raised UPC.) I've never felt bound -- not in the negative sense.

Standards were never a problem for me. Keeping my hair uncut wasn't bondage or a weight. Neither were the other codes of "holiness" that I adhered to. It was never an issue. I did what I did gladly with no complaint.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:34 PM
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I feel as if I've always walked in grace and liberty even when I kept certain standards while we were licensed with the UPC and before. (I was raised UPC.) I've never felt bound -- not in the negative sense.

Standards were never a problem for me. Keeping my hair uncut wasn't bondage or a weight. Neither were the other codes of "holiness" that I adhered to. It was never an issue. I did what I did gladly with no complaint.
And today ... even though I'm not tied or bound to certain rules of conduct in relation to standards and holiness ... I am careful.

Some of the things I took the liberty that was mine to do ..... like piercing my ears so I could wear earrings (which I love) ....... I now don't wear them.

The reason is because of the conviction of the Holy Ghost and Him dealing with me in a personal way at the altar in a Sunday AM service months ago ..... that they symbolized the bondage of Egypt and a direct link and tie to paganism.

I'm still tempted to wear them and have put them in a few times but end up taking them out. I wore them to church several weeks ago and during worship reached up and took them out ....... again. Just can't wear them with a clear conscience.
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?

AT what point does the grace of God end and his judgement begin?
When his grace is rejected by not giving it space in your thoughts to do what it was designed to do.
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?

AT what point does the grace of God end and his judgement begin?
His path is straight and norrow.

UPC's path is a 10 guage wire stretched over the Grand Canyon

His yoke is easy and burdens are light.

UPC yoke is a Hard heritage and burdens that are piled on heavy by man and traditions.

Jesus said take up your cross.

UPC says you must bare a "UPC standards and traditions" approved cross.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:31 PM
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His path is straight and norrow.

UPC's path is a 10 guage wire stretched over the Grand Canyon

His yoke is easy and burdens are light.

UPC yoke is a Hard heritage and burdens that are piled on heavy by man and traditions.

Jesus said take up your cross.

UPC says you must bare a "UPC standards and traditions" approved cross.

So we are not really talking about the liberty and grace of Christ but rather our bitterness toward the UPCI
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His path is straight and norrow.

UPC's path is a 10 guage wire stretched over the Grand Canyon

His yoke is easy and burdens are light.

UPC yoke is a Hard heritage and burdens that are piled on heavy by man and traditions.

Jesus said take up your cross.

UPC says you must bare a "UPC standards and traditions" approved cross.
I am NOT UPC never have been and according to your feelings about standards I should be feeling oppressed-depressed-and maybe possessed BUT I am HAPPY. I have lived the way I live since and 11 year old boy for the most part. I have never found the standards a burden I love my heritage and my identity. So feel sorry for someone else. I am HAPPY-BLESSED NOT cheated, beaten down, discouraged.
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Some of you folks have not backslid but rather found a greater path to walk in the grace and liberty of Jesus?

AT what point does the grace of God end and his judgement begin?
When one decides that grace is a free ticket to sin.
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