Men in Womens Bathroom: A Reality now in CO

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Rico

Unfortunately, you don't get to decide if it's a choice they are making or not. I know you probly don't like that, but that's just the way it is. If you are interested in learning more about transgender disorder, I am sure you could look it up. There's probably loads of info available on the net.

Seriously Rico, I don't care how some confused soul is seeking to alter themselves and think it gives them the right to infringe on my rights. 4 of the most horrible things in this world have happened to me and I have no fear of any man, jail, or government. The worst that can happen to me besides being murdered has. So if you think I will pity an idiot you are wrong. They need Jesus to get they're minds right. Then they will for sure know what bathroom they need to use.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

Transgender and transexual are interchangable terms.

I thought transgender was someone that was one sex but lives as the other (wearing the clothing) and transexual was someone that had the operation.

There was a kid here that got killed in his junior high by another kid. The kid that was killed was a boy but came to school in makeup and in womens clothing. He was called transgender.

A transexual is a transgender person but a transexual had the operation (snip snip) and takes the meds while a transgendered person may not have had the operation yet

[Rico]

Some of you are probably wondering how I know all this stuff. Well, Jovita is someone who was a friend of mine when I was in my late teens. She was born Joel, but had lived the bulk of her adult life as a woman named Jovita. Being the kind of person that I am, I asked her a lot of questions about how she ended up how she was. She gave me a lot of information. The last time I spoke with her she still had not had her surgery, but was hoping to eventually get it done.

Because of the things I knew from Jovita, I didn't think it was a big issue to be friends with people that have this disorder. When I ended up in CA a coworker, Joanna, was a tranny, like Jovita. She was at the beginning stages of her transition so it was pretty obvious she was actually a he (had a serious issue with 5 o'clock shadow, voice, and mannerisms. I learned a lot from her too.

This is definitely not a choice that people like this make. Both Jovita and Joanna said they always felt like they were girls while growing up. Jovita was a very feminine male so she got picked on a lot. Joanna was a "regular" male, so she was able to keep her struggle a secret. One thing that was different about Joanna was that she was attracted to females, while Jovita was attracted to males.

I never thought I would be talking about them on a forum, but here we are. To this day, I will do the best I can to be understanding and cordial to people like Jovita and Joanna. This was all before my conversion, so the issue of God never came up with either of them.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I thought transgender was someone that was one sex but lives as the other (wearing the clothing) and transexual was someone that had the operation.

There was a kid here that got killed in his junior high by another kid. The kid that was killed was a boy but came to school in makeup and in womens clothing. He was called transgender.

A transexual is a transgender person but a transexual had the operation (snip snip) and takes the meds while a transgendered person may not have had the operation yet

You may be thinking of a transvestite, which is someone who wears the clothing of the opposite sex. They don't live as the opposite sex or think they are the opposite sex stuck in the wrong body.

[Praxeas]

I have known people that had the operation....I still think they are freaks. I don't think they were women trapped in men's bodies. I feel sorry for them that they are so psychological screwed up (among other possibilities) but I don't think the solution is to take hormones and cut it off.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

You may be thinking of a transvestite, which is someone who wears the clothing of the opposite sex. They don't live as the opposite sex or think they are the opposite sex stuck in the wrong body.

no I am thinking of someone that believes they are another gender trapped in their body and live their life AS that other sex, Not someone that just likes to wear the clothing of the opposite sex.

[Rico]

http://web4health.info/en/answers/sex-gender-what.htm

Transgender is a bid broader term than transexual.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I have known people that had the operation....I still think they are freaks. I don't think they were women trapped in men's bodies. I feel sorry for them that they are so psychological screwed up (among other possibilities) but I don't think the solution is to take hormones and cut it off.

Prax, it doesn't matter what you think about them. Not to them anyway. What matters for them is what they think about themselves. I am sure many of them consider themselves freaks though.

[Pragmatist]

According to the news tonight, Colorado was the 20th state to pass this law. Where was the outrage over the other 19 where this is already the law?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Rico

http://web4health.info/en/answers/sex-gender-what.htm

Transgender is a bid broader term than transexual.

Sounds what I just got finished saying