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06-18-2008, 12:48 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Personally, and this is just me, I would never buy a Cadillac. I would never buy an SUV or other luxury vehicle, this is just my personal conviction.
I think it is waste of money that could be put to better use in the kingdom. That is just me. But, being in a situation of beggars can't be choosers, I do drive one. I could sell it, but I have looked at my options, and being that I know it is a reliable car, what I could get out of it wouldn't enable me to buy a car that would be as dependable.
These are just my personal feelings, I feel as Christians we have let ourselves get too caught up with the trappings of our society, and too over-laden with "stuff". I don't think that everyone is obliged to follow my convictions, and I try not to be too judgmental about it.
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Well, I think we should be minimal in things we purchase, and not go about just collecting massive amounts of things, but at the same time, I think using your money wisely includes buying good quality. I might pay $200 for a dress that will last for 5 years, while another woman may pay $50 for 5 dresses that last less than 1 or 2. Now, who is the better steward? *shrug*
I agree that modest living is a good thing. I just don't think that living cheaply is the equivalent of modesty. Nor is it handling money wisely, IMO.
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06-18-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Originally Posted by dizzyde
Personally, and this is just me, I would never buy a Cadillac. I would never buy an SUV or other luxury vehicle, this is just my personal conviction.
I think it is waste of money that could be put to better use in the kingdom. That is just me. But, being in a situation of beggars can't be choosers, I do drive one. I could sell it, but I have looked at my options, and being that I know it is a reliable car, what I could get out of it wouldn't enable me to buy a car that would be as dependable.
These are just my personal feelings, I feel as Christians we have let ourselves get too caught up with the trappings of our society, and too over-laden with "stuff". I don't think that everyone is obliged to follow my convictions, and I try not to be too judgmental about it.
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Sis, not to get argumentative here, but let me use your post as a springboard.
You say you have a conviction against buying a Cadillac.
However, God has graciously allowed someone to give you one.
But, how do onlookers know it was a gift? Most would think you purchased it.
So, wouldn't that be a violation of your convictions?
What about the verse that says to "avoid the appearance of evil"?
Just curious what other's thoughts are on the subject.
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06-18-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
The illogic ... poor interpretation of the bible and editing out context and unfavorable verses is making these false doctrines irrelevant.
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06-18-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
Is it prideful to announce what a church gives to Sheaves For Christly publicly ?
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06-18-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Is it prideful to announce what a church gives to Sheaves For Christly publicly ?
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It all depends on motive! Maybe it's announced to incourage other churches to give. If you do things to be seen of men, you have your reward in them seeing you. If you do things to be seen of God, you reward is stored up in heaven.
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06-18-2008, 11:49 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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It all depends on motive! Maybe it's announced to incourage other churches to give. If you do things to be seen of men, you have your reward in them seeing you. If you do things to be seen of God, you reward is stored up in heaven.
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But, Jesus' edict to not "give to be seen of men" makes no allowances for motive.
It's plain and simple - "That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. "
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06-18-2008, 11:45 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Is it prideful to announce what a church gives to Sheaves For Christly publicly ?
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What is the motive?
I personally believe Jesus told us our giving was to be in secret, or otherwards not drawing attention to ourselves.
JMHO
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06-18-2008, 11:46 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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What is the motive?
I personally believe Jesus told us our giving was to be in secret, or otherwards not drawing attention to ourselves.
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Was that on an individual basis, and not necessarily on a corprate basis where no one knows what each individual gave?
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
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Was that on an individual basis, and not necessarily on a corprate basis where no one knows what each individual gave?
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It certainly was for an individual, as for corporate?
What is the motive?
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06-18-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: Folks COMMANDED to Remove Ornaments.
See God looks at motive,sometimes people try to make the scriptures say absurd things.
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