anyone who would vote for that guy is just... well I dont know.
Barak Obama is sick. As a father of two beautiful boys who were born premature and needed help just to make the first few days of life, I am disgusted that this beast of a homo sapiens or what ever he is would rather protect abortions than an actual human being who was actually suffering AND DYING FROM LACK OF CARE.
disgusting and barbaric and just might be the next president. wow.
Yep. Bush's policies are just that bad. Many will vote for him to ensure that Bush's policies are ended.
anyone who would vote for that guy is just... well I dont know.
Barak Obama is sick. As a father of two beautiful boys who were born premature and needed help just to make the first few days of life, I am disgusted that this beast of a homo sapiens or what ever he is would rather protect abortions than an actual human being who was actually suffering AND DYING FROM LACK OF CARE.
disgusting and barbaric and just might be the next president. wow.
Here's the deal...Obama would allow a child to die...Bush and McCain would march that same child into an unnecessary war to be blown to bits as an adult.
While Obama is for choice on these issues...the responsibility for murder lays in the hands of the individual women who make these choices. Obama has never forced a woman to abort.
But Bush/McCain's policies would personally subject America's bravest most faithful to a bloody war of choice, sacrificing them on the altars of globalist nation building exercises to enforce the will of the UN.
Here's the deal...Obama would allow a child to die...Bush and McCain would march that same child into an unnecessary war to be blown to bits as an adult.
While Obama is for choice on these issues...the responsibility for murder lays in the hands of the individual women who make these choices. Obama has never forced a woman to abort.
But Bush/McCain's policies would personally subject America's bravest most faithful to a bloody war of choice, sacrificing them on the altars of globalist nation building exercises to enforce the will of the UN.
True. It's funny how so many people try to put the blame for abortions on politicians when the blame truly rests on women who choose to end the lives of their children.
True. It's funny how so many people try to put the blame for abortions on politicians when the blame truly rests on women who choose to end the lives of their children.
Rico, this conversation isn't about abortion. its about a living baby being left untreated and allowed to die after a failed late term abortion ends in a live pregnancy.
The blame for this kind of thing rests on the society that turns a blind eye to the reality here. the blame rests with those who explain this kind of thing away because they are more interested in supporting their candidate.
before reading Obama's actual words that Adino posted, my opposition to him rested solely on my political philosophy. All that seems so very unimportant when I see how callous this man is to a living human being. He would let a living human die in order to protect his political position.
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Rico, this conversation isn't about abortion. its about a living baby being left untreated and allowed to die after a failed late term abortion ends in a live pregnancy.
The blame for this kind of thing rests on the society that turns a blind eye to the reality here. the blame rests with those who explain this kind of thing away because they are more interested in supporting their candidate.
before reading Obama's actual words that Adino posted, my opposition to him rested solely on my political philosophy. All that seems so very unimportant when I see how callous this man is to a living human being. He would let a living human die in order to protect his political position.
Ferd, let me ask you a question. Would you want the government deciding for you whether your sons would live or die because of their health at birth? Don't you think that should be your decision to make? If a woman is intent on having an abortion, and something goes wrong with that abortion, should the government have the right to make her keep that baby alive? How far should the government go in meddling in the lives of the people of the USA?
Listen, I am against abortion, Ferd. I am against it because I think it's murder, plain and simple. At the same time, I don't think our government should force women to have babies they don't want. Granted, it can be argued that a woman made the choice when she got pregnant. It can also be argued that everything should be done to save the life of a baby born because of a botched abortion. I just don't agree that it's the government's job to step in and make those kinds of decisions for people.
Rico, this conversation isn't about abortion. its about a living baby being left untreated and allowed to die after a failed late term abortion ends in a live pregnancy.
Here's a question Ferd...does the baby have a right to health care? If his mother is uninsured...does she? Or his father...if uninsured...does he?
I know you value human life...my question is...how much value are you willing to put on human life?
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The blame for this kind of thing rests on the society that turns a blind eye to the reality here. the blame rests with those who explain this kind of thing away because they are more interested in supporting their candidate.
We have a society that cheers leaders who march America's boys and girls off to unnecessary wars of choice, allows over 18,000 people a year to die because they can't afford health insurance to cover their treatments, justifies torture, and has little to no problem with the fact that over 80,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the crossfire of this unnecessary war of choice.
One cannot disregard the value of life when it comes to war, health care, torture, and the civilian cost of conflict...and then have any creditability with being disgusted over the tragedy of abortion. A TRUE prolife individual will stand solidly against wars of choice, for health care for "the least of these", against torture, and tirelessly remind us of the cost of war in effort to prevent needless loss of life.
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before reading Obama's actual words that Adino posted, my opposition to him rested solely on my political philosophy. All that seems so very unimportant when I see how callous this man is to a living human being. He would let a living human die in order to protect his political position.
And 18,000 Americans die every year struggling to find ways to pay for treatments that could save their lives. These individuals are crying out for affordable health insurance...for the sake of their very lives. How many of us will willingly let them die in order to protect ourselves from paying an extra few dollars in taxes?
Here's the deal...Obama would allow a child to die...Bush and McCain would march that same child into an unnecessary war to be blown to bits as an adult.
But Bush/McCain's policies would personally subject America's bravest most faithful to a bloody war of choice, sacrificing them on the altars of globalist nation building exercises to enforce the will of the UN.
That's an absurd comment.
You're trying to equate aborting an unborn child with sending a solder into war where he may die?
Good grief. That's absurd beyond words.
If you don't see how ridiculous that comparison is, then it wouldn't even make any sense for me to try to explain it to you.
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For a Forum called Apostolic Friends, this is becoming very unfriendly. I'll just say that I am afraid of what Obama stands for. But I pray for him every day that any warped evil thinking he may have will be healed. We will not put Obama or McCain in office, God will. Calling each other names on this web site is very un God like. I don't get my feelings from the media but by listening to what the candidate has to say and their performance in the past. With Obama, I don't like what I see nor what I hear, every time he opens his mouth he seems to put his foot in it and has to back peddle to get himself out of it. He is someone who came from nowhere and succeeded, which is good. Problem is he has let success go to his head and now has a tendency to look down on the common people.
Pray for our Commander and Chief and our Vice president, They along with our brave military has kept us safe and put a stop to the senseless killing of innocent people by a mad dictator. They are not perfect and I don't always agree with them but they are the best we have at this time. They are who God, not the people have put in office. Every war president has been disliked and even hated, from George Washington to the present.
That's an absurd comment.
You're trying to equate aborting an unborn child with sending a solder into war where he may die?
Good grief. That's absurd beyond words.
If you don't see how ridiculous that comparison is, then it wouldn't even make any sense for me to try to explain it to you.
I see what you're saying. The point may need a little explaining.
My point is primarily on the notion of abortion compared to sending American boys and girls to fight and die in an unnecessary war of choice. Abortion has complete disregard for the life of the unborn...while warmongering has complete disregard for the lives of our boys and girls in the service and the countless number of civilians that will die in the cross fire.
I see what you're saying. The point may need a little explaining.
My point is primarily on the notion of abortion compared to sending American boys and girls to fight and die in an unnecessary war of choice. Abortion has complete disregard for the life of the unborn...while warmongering has complete disregard for the lives of our boys and girls in the service and the countless number of civilians that will die in the cross fire.
That's the concern fueling my statement.
It's still not a good analogy, Aquila. I see what you are saying, but you are still trying to compare apples with oranges. Maybe you could find a way to compare bananas with plantain.
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