Holiness for Children: Kingdom Kids Series

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by slave4him

I don't believe that these books teach that God hates people that wear this or that. It is for those who choose to live a seperated lifestyle outwardly.
In this day and time wear a woman like britney Spears whom this world exploits her for every thing outwardly til it causes her to have to go into rehab. I think these books are very appropriate.

I did not say that most of these books were inappropriate, but some of the ideas in them would cause children to be harsh and judgmental just like their parents...I think it would be best to teach about love, discipleship, and not judging others.

Blessings, Rhoni

P.S. RR is a friend of mine.

Dan, did you see my post above that answers some of your questions?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by burnedtoo

Dan, did you see my post above that answers some of your questions?

Yes I did ... it coincides with the other review article I posted ... I still don't see the cohesiveness of some the biblical arguments to support the content of these books .... for example their is nothing to support the notion that uncut hair gives a woman "extra" angelic protection.

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I did not say that most of these books were inappropriate, but some of the ideas in them would cause children to be harsh and judgmental just like their parents...I think it would be best to teach about love, discipleship, and not judging others.

Blessings, Rhoni

P.S. RR is a friend of mine.

Sister I hope I am not sounding harsh because that isn't my intent. I do have to ask though is it the ideas in the books that would cause children to be harsh and judgmental or is it the way some people present the ideas. I don't believe Jesus forced anyone to do anything and every thing he did even when rebuking them he did it kindly and with love and compassion for their soul. I do believe a lot of our apostolic fathers didn't teach these things with compassion and it caused them to be bondage. But the ideas in these books if taught with love have priceless value especially to a little girl growing up in todays society.
Again I hope my post havent seemed harsh to you sis Rhoni or you Bro. Daniel. I don't claim to be a great writer sorry.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by slave4him

Sister I hope I am not sounding harsh because that isn't my intent. I do have to ask though is it the ideas in the books that would cause children to be harsh and judgmental or is it the way some people present the ideas. I don't believe Jesus forced anyone to do anything and every thing he did even when rebuking them he did it kindly and with love and compassion for their soul. I do believe a lot of our apostolic fathers didn't teach these things with compassion and it caused them to be bondage. But the ideas in these books if taught with love have priceless value especially to a little girl growing up in todays society.
Again I hope my post havent seemed harsh to you sis Rhoni or you Bro. Daniel. I don't claim to be a great writer sorry.

Slave4him,

I do not think you posted harsh. I know many times things posted are misinterpreted because we have no non-verbals to go with the black and white words.

I do agree with you right here...that it isn't so much the written word but the way it is presented. Those looking for a way to control or manipulate situations, or those who are ignorant in many ways, take things to extremes and cause a lot of confusion and conflict.

Children need to be taught several things, one in which is how to gracefully thank others for gifts given and then let their parents take care of things later, example: My niece had a birthday party, she just turned 8. She was opening gifts and received a "Bratz Doll". My sister sat back to watch her seeing if she reacted appropriately as she had been taught...my niece politely said, "Thank-you very much", and went on to open the next gift. After everyone left, my niece gave her Mom the doll and asked her to give it to a needy child. My sister felt pride in knowing she had trained her daughter well.

On the other hand, I know of another instance where a child [4 or 5] had gotten a gift from a friend [play plastic jewelry] and she proceeded to tell this person that "Jesus don't like people who wear earrings"...When asked who taught her that she said her Mom and Dad. This mother and father would not let the young lady associate with the person any more on the premise that she was being taught contrary to what they believed. This is an example of the wrong way to 'train up a child'.

So, I do agree that because of today's society, T.V. should be limited, movies carefully screened, and and parents should teach their children manners, how to love those who are unlike themselves, and how to give a Godly answer when faced with similar dilemmas.

Blessings, Rhoni

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Children need to be taught several things, one in which is how to gracefully thank others for gifts given and then let their parents take care of things later, example: My niece had a birthday party, she just turned 8. She was opening gifts and received a "Bratz Doll". My sister sat back to watch her seeing if she reacted appropriately as she had been taught...my niece politely said, "Thank-you very much", and went on to open the next gift. After everyone left, my niece gave her Mom the doll and asked her to give it to a needy child. My sister felt pride in knowing she had trained her daughter well.

On the other hand, I know of another instance where a child [4 or 5] had gotten a gift from a friend [play plastic jewelry] and she proceeded to tell this person that "Jesus don't like people who wear earrings"...When asked who taught her that she said her Mom and Dad. This mother and father would not let the young lady associate with the person any more on the premise that she was being taught contrary to what they believed. This is an example of the wrong way to 'train up a child'.

So, I do agree that because of today's society, T.V. should be limited, movies carefully screened, and and parents should teach their children manners, how to love those who are unlike themselves, and how to give a Godly answer when faced with similar dilemmas.

We limited our TV and movies to 0%. We taught our daughter "Jesus is displeased with bad things on TV." Sometimes in a young child's mind, then J"Jesus don't like those who watch TV."

Your logic is somewhat flawed here, Sis.

Or I read it wrong.

[rgcraig]

I think there are more productive points that children's books could be making that could affect their holiness (not outward standards).

Perhaps teaching them not to lie or cheat, be kind to others, share....etc.

I mean good grief....teaching a four year old that fingernail polish is wrong - - please.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think there are more productive points that children's books could be making that could affect their holiness (not outward standards).

Perhaps teaching them not to lie or cheat, be kind to others, share....etc.

I mean good grief....teaching a four year old that fingernail polish is wrong - - please.

You're just bitter... and you don't believe the doctrine!!!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

You're just bitter... and you don't believe the doctrine!!!

Yea, right.

There's not a bitter bone in my body. But teaching children to be judgmental about what someone does or doesn't do that has nothing to do with being a Christian is wrong. Sorry.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Yea, right.

There's not a bitter bone in my body. But teaching children to be judgmental about what someone does or doesn't do that has nothing to do with being a Christian is wrong. Sorry.

I don't have a problem with teaching them Godly Living and being devoted. And WHY devotions to God are a Good thing. (I serve Him BECAUSE I LOVE Him)

After all at 5, the Homosexuals and Weirdos are already affecting what they see in Government ran schools.