I read an awesome book some time back when I hit a spiritual crisis in my life. I was ready to give up entirely on living for God. I was saved and served in an ultraconservative church that didn't even believe in fresh air. I was spiritually dying inside. The rules...the fear...the inadequacy, the hiding of my failures, and the judgmental elitism that destroyed so many of those relationships I cherished and am only now beginning to rebuild. My wife was a mess, I was a mess, and she was "tired". We were ready to quit on Pentecost. We went on vacation in Canada and in the fresh wilderness air on Charleston Lake we felt the Lord loud and clear...we had to leave our church and seek...Him. We had to leave our rules and seek...Him. Then while browsing a book section at local store the Lord led me to a book titled, 6 Rules Every Man Must Break, by Bill Perkins. I picked up the book and looked it over and sat it down. I began to walk away and suddenly I felt a spiritual compulsion to turn around and buy the book. So I picked it up and bought it. This book revolutionized my walk with God. Here's a link to it...
WARNING: This book isn't for everyone. It will challenge tradition and promise a scandalous freedom in Christ. I'll never be the same after reading it. I pray it helps some of you too.
So what happens with your new converts who are pot smokers and drinkers? Do you tell them not to drink until they are drunk, but they can still drink?
Most people coming out of the world today, drank to party, drank to get fuzzy headed, drank to have fun. (not all, most)
Our newest babies stopped drinking and not one person told them to. In fact, it was never mentioned, discussed, brought up in any way. They dropped it completely.
The Bible talks about Wine being a mocker, and strong drink being raging.
The NT talks about wine for the stomach's sake. The NT talks about wine for communion or nourishment.
The NT talks about new wine, the New Testement talks about being filled with the Spirit...
That's Bible.
All else is supposition, and provision for your own desires, nothing more.
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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
So what happens with your new converts who are pot smokers and drinkers? Do you tell them not to drink until they are drunk, but they can still drink?
Most people coming out of the world today, drank to party, drank to get fuzzy headed, drank to have fun. (not all, most)
Our newest babies stopped drinking and not one person told them to. In fact, it was never mentioned, discussed, brought up in any way. They dropped it completely.
The Bible talks about Wine being a mocker, and strong drink being raging.
The NT talks about wine for the stomach's sake. The NT talks about wine for communion or nourishment.
The NT talks about new wine, the New Testement talks about being filled with the Spirit...
That's Bible.
All else is supposition, and provision for your own desires, nothing more.
New babies? If they are grounded in the faith they must hear the complete word of God. While scripture gives great warning about the use/misuse of wine it also praises it and there were even wine offerings. That Jesus drank wine is obvious or why would He be accused of being a wine abuser and a glutton if he didn't on occasion drink and enjoy fine food?
I do believe in knowing our strengths and weaknesses and if someone cannot drink without sinning by all means don't drink.
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New babies? If they are grounded in the faith they must hear the complete word of God. While scripture gives great warning about the use/misuse of wine it also praises it and there were even wine offerings. That Jesus drank wine is obvious or why would He be accused of being a wine abuser and a glutton if he didn't on occasion drink and enjoy fine food?
I do believe in knowing our strengths and weaknesses and if someone cannot drink without sinning by all means don't drink.
Our "new babies" were about four months coming to church, maybe a month after being baptised when they got rid of their beer fridge.
We never ever had a discussion with them on alcohol. Still haven't.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
You guys know that Elder Epley uses passover wine for coummion.
Bro.Flemming that used to be the webmaster on FCF is very knowledgeable on Biblical wines.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
See wine is a mocker,wouldn't mean that all wine is not classed the same,wouldn't there be a difference between Passover wine and other kinds.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
Would a person using Nyquil be sinning,or would those taking Loradine as prescribed by a Doctor be sinning ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.