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07-16-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: Baptism, DOES IT REALLY WASH AWAY SIN??
Hermanos,
Solo Jesus salva.
Paz de Cristo,
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07-16-2008, 04:02 PM
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Re: Baptism, DOES IT REALLY WASH AWAY SIN??
I will respond to the "experts" on eis in a moment ... no matter what your view on eis is ... one cannot ignore the grammatical breakdown of Acts 2:38 which only links remission of sins when examining tenses.
Here is an another expert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Urzmrq8zw
Where are your Greek experts on this, Elder Epley.
Isolation of words and isolating phrases is poor scholarship
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Ignoring Peter's subsequent sermons that link forgiveness/remission/washing of sins to believe/repentance are inexplicably ignored by those who state Peter held the keys to salvation on the day of Pentecost ......
Acts 3:19
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
Acts 10:43
43All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."
Again Oneness theologian shares the validity of these plausible explanations as follows:
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It would be useful in any current discussion of the relationship between water baptism and the remission of sins to recognize and respond to an objection that is current among some scholars of our day. It is perhaps best expressed in The Bible Knowledge Commentary and suggests that the clause "and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ" is parenthetical, based on the following factors: "
(a) The verb makes a distinction between singular and plural verbs and nouns. The verb `repent' is plural and so is the pronoun `your' in the clause so that your sins maybe forgiven (lit., `unto the remission of your sins,' eis aphesin ton hamartion hymon).
Therefore the verb `repent' must go with the purpose and forgiveness of sins.
On the other hand the imperative `be baptized' is singular, setting it off from the rest of the sentence.
(b) This concept fits with Peter's proclamation in Acts 10:43 in which the same expression `sins may be forgiven' (aphesin harmation) occurs. There it is granted on the basis of faith alone.
(c) In Luke 24:47 and Acts 5:31 the same writer, Luke, indicates that repentance results in remission
of sins."
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07-16-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I will respond to the "experts" on eis in a moment ... no matter what your view on eis is ... one cannot ignore the grammatical breakdown of Acts 2:38 which only links remission of sins when examining tenses.
Here is an another expert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Urzmrq8zw
Where are your Greek experts on this, Elder Epley.
Isolation of words and isolating phrases is poor scholarship
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Ignoring Peter's subsequent sermons that link forgiveness/remission/washing of sins to believe/repentance are inexplicably ignored by those who state Peter held the keys to salvation on the day of Pentecost ......
Acts 3:19
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
Acts 10:43
43All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."
Again Oneness theologian shares the validity of these plausible explanations as follows:
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Those posted TEACH the language at notable universities. Not someone using a strongs.
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