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08-08-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by MamaHen
Just a note, I would love to see someone come up with a New Testament scripture regarding a "church" being a building, and any example of the NT church having a building designated as such...........Hope this view doesn't get me banned HERE too!
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What would give you the idea that a view like this would get you banned here?
At AFF how you present a view can get you banned (if it involves personal attacks) but not the view itself. The only things we do not allow (within reason) are outright heresay or blasphemy.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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08-09-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by MamaHen
Just a note, I would love to see someone come up with a New Testament scripture regarding a "church" being a building, and any example of the NT church having a building designated as such...........Hope this view doesn't get me banned HERE too!
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Not me. I would not love to see that...since I don't really know anyone that thinks the building we have meetings in is "the church". BTW where else have you been banned from?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-09-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Not me. I would not love to see that...since I don't really know anyone that thinks the building we have meetings in is "the church". BTW where else have you been banned from?
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What about the references to "The House of God"? Is this OK? Certainly there was a time of transition, even Jesus made referece to "My House", but was this intended to continue after the introduction of New Conevant?
Know ye not... ye ARE the temple...
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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08-09-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
What about the references to "The House of God"? Is this OK? Certainly there was a time of transition, even Jesus made referece to "My House", but was this intended to continue after the introduction of New Conevant?
Know ye not... ye ARE the temple...
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That depends on what they mean. We tend to also call the place we meet "the sanctuary". But I think if you asked them they simply mean this is the building where we all come together and God comes too (where two or more are gathered)
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-10-2008, 08:48 AM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Not me. I would not love to see that...since I don't really know anyone that thinks the building we have meetings in is "the church". BTW where else have you been banned from?
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I was banned from that new site. Only one....I'm not on a lot of forums. :-)
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08-10-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
If we use "where 2-3 gather in his name" to show what building can be referred to as "God's house", then does it not somewhat conflict with N.T. scripture definition for "God's house"?
And if we do that, then whatever building we are in, (gathered 2-3 in his name), is that building "God's house"? be it coffee shop bible study and prayer, or wherever.
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08-10-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by shag
If we use "where 2-3 gather in his name" to show what building can be referred to as "God's house", then does it not somewhat conflict with N.T. scripture definition for "God's house"?
And if we do that, then whatever building we are in, (gathered 2-3 in his name), is that building "God's house"? be it coffee shop bible study and prayer, or wherever.
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Yes conflicting is right... because I am sitting at Starbucks, ALONE, drinking a quad on ice and God is all over this place!
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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08-10-2008, 04:24 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by MamaHen
Just a note, I would love to see someone come up with a New Testament scripture regarding a "church" being a building, and any example of the NT church having a building designated as such...........Hope this view doesn't get me banned HERE too!
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The REAL New Testament Church is not a building.
It is an organization.
It is the UPCI.
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08-10-2008, 08:24 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
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Originally Posted by Sam
The REAL New Testament Church is not a building.
It is an organization.
It is the UPCI.
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LOL 
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08-07-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: Houses and Mansions
The only thing "special" about a church building is the fact that it is set apart for prayer unto God. the same could be said about anything/place that is set apart for God... especially people. Ye are the temple...
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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