I know that Dave Ramsey really teaches against credit cards period, no exceptions. I have credit cards, but pay them off faithfully at the end of each month. I get lots of airline and hotel points, so I feel like it's good stewardship, rather than bad. But Dave says that you're letting man's system have your money, even if it's for less than a month, and he thinks that's wrong.
What think ye?
Sherri, I was going to write something smart alleck but then I realized this is another one of those aposto-phrases we were talking about pages and pages ago...the question,
"Do you believe in...." "We don't believe in..."
I know we all believe in Jesus yet some actually do believe in credit cards.
I believe that any church that promotes using credit (not debit that is deducted immediately from your account) for tithes and/or offerings is irresponsible, and wrong wrong wrong!
[QUOTE=Carpenter;567555]Sherri, I was going to write something smart alleck but then I realized this is another one of those aposto-phrases we were talking about pages and pages ago...the question,
"Do you believe in...." "We don't believe in..."
I know we all believe in Jesus yet some actually do believe in credit cards.
I believe that any church that promotes using credit (not debit that is deducted immediately from your account) for tithes and/or offerings is irresponsible, and wrong wrong wrong![/QUOTE]
Oooh, me too. I think this is totally off and I can't imagine teaching people to get out of debt and then using credit cards for charitable giving to that church! We didn't even offer payment by credit card when I had a bookstore in the last church. I just don't like to see people in bondage.
I'd like to not believe in them, but when I open my wallet, they are there. I can't help but see them.
There ya go.
I have had as much as twenty thousand on Credit Card at zero interest for one year.
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I'm hoping to buy a house in a year or so. Trying to clean up my credit though. It's not horrible, but I need to get things cleared, like my medical bills from my surgery a couple years ago!
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
I believe in credit cards. I believe because I see them every time I open my wallet. We also have quite the balances on them right now since we effectively lived off of a couple for the first two months after our move. But now we're paying them down big time.
I have no idea who "Doug Ramsey" is but his approval (or disapproval) of credit cards is pretty irrelevant to me. I'll be he is good in the wrestling ring though! ("Ramses' number one he knows the secret of desire. Ramses is the one, he puts the people all on fire...."
I know that Dave Ramsey really teaches against credit cards period, no exceptions. I have credit cards, but pay them off faithfully at the end of each month. I get lots of airline and hotel points, so I feel like it's good stewardship, rather than bad. But Dave says that you're letting man's system have your money, even if it's for less than a month, and he thinks that's wrong.
What think ye?
I believe that having credit cards is good as long you're being a good steward, otherwise they wouldn't be good for people who can't control their spending with credit cards.
I know that Dave Ramsey really teaches against credit cards period, no exceptions. I have credit cards, but pay them off faithfully at the end of each month. I get lots of airline and hotel points, so I feel like it's good stewardship, rather than bad. But Dave says that you're letting man's system have your money, even if it's for less than a month, and he thinks that's wrong.
What think ye?
Man's system? Money? Money is man's system. Man prints our money. They devised our economic system. If that is the best Dave can do then I'm afraid he has no valid argument for teaching against credit cards
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