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Old 03-30-2007, 01:39 AM
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Jesus did not allow divorce at all...he only said that Moses did it because of the hardness of men's hearts.

Even the reasons spoke of by Paul are just a way to justify oneself in the sight of others. You can drive a person away from you and even give them cause to commit adultery. You can use the justification that each is responsible for one's own behaviors but even then...

I just don't see many justifiable if any at all reasons for divorce.

Remarriage is the issue...it would seem.
Adultery breaks the union of one couple and joins the offendor to the other party...

Of course there is just cause for divorce.

This issue and others are plainly spelled out in the Bible. I don't understand how people deem their own judgement to be higher than the authors of His word. If people want another Bible, go write one and embrace it and love it and follow it.

Why is there a need to diminish His Holy Word???
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:48 AM
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whew...thank GOD this thread has been hijacked!

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Old 03-30-2007, 01:51 AM
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Adultery breaks the union of one couple and joins the offendor to the other party...

Of course there is just cause for divorce.

This issue and others are plainly spelled out in the Bible. I don't understand how people deem their own judgement to be higher than the authors of His word. If people want another Bible, go write one and embrace it and love it and follow it.

Why is there a need to diminish His Holy Word???
Jekyll,

Don't have the time or the patience to rewrite the scriptures posted over and over again on these threads, but no body is rewriting the Bible. Perhaps you are reacting on an emotional level and not a scriptural one.

Blessings, Rhoni
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:10 AM
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Don't have the time or the patience to rewrite the scriptures posted over and over again on these threads, but no body is rewriting the Bible. Perhaps you are reacting on an emotional level and not a scriptural one.

Blessings, Rhoni
Sorry, I don't quite live in the emotional realm that you seem to live in. If you don't think that people twist scripture, you are mistaken. On the other hand, I agree that people use any excuse they can to commit sin.

Including blaming their spouse for what they themselves do.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:15 AM
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Sorry, I don't quite live in the emotional realm that you seem to live in. If you don't think that people twist scripture, you are mistaken. On the other hand, I agree that people use any excuse they can to commit sin.

Including blaming their spouse for what they themselves do.
Oh, I agree that many twist scriptures to say and mean what they want them to say or mean. I was totally unemotional when I posted that the only response to the Pharisees that Jesus gave them was the fact Moses gave a writ of divorcement because of the hardness of the people's hearts. Jesus went on to say that it was not the way it was from the beginning.

And I agree that many people fail to remove the beam from their own eye before trying to remove a twig from that of another's eye!

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Old 03-30-2007, 06:55 AM
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The 'be ye separate' scripture was written over 2000 years ago. We say that it means we should dress different. I'm asking how Jesus followed that command Himself.

There are lots of people who dress modestly that are unchurched.
Separation includes modesty, but is far more all-encompassing than just dress.

That is way too narrow a definition.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:04 AM
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Separation includes modesty, but is far more all-encompassing than just dress.

That is way too narrow a definition.
Good Point!
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:41 AM
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Renda, you are right on the money, the fact that I dance instead of march to the beat of a different drummer is testimony enough.

All I was saying was that I observed the same sort of attitude in this women who has no qualms about dressing in her habit (based on a committment to God) but that there is a certain...something about her countenance that I have observed to be present in Apostolic women as they present themselves in public. The simple message is that I am holy, committed to God, etc...and you are not.

Is that not the true and honest message of separation?


...be honest.


...just thinking out loud.
Perhaps what you are observing is a certain serenity that comes from faith? The message from her countenance being deeper than the habit she wears.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:43 AM
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Perhaps what you are observing is a certain serenity that comes from faith? The message from her countenance being deeper than the habit she wears.
Perish the thought....

Methinks you might have a point.
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Renda, you are right on the money, the fact that I dance instead of march to the beat of a different drummer is testimony enough.

All I was saying was that I observed the same sort of attitude in this women who has no qualms about dressing in her habit (based on a committment to God) but that there is a certain...something about her countenance that I have observed to be present in Apostolic women as they present themselves in public. The simple message is that I am holy, committed to God, etc...and you are not.

Is that not the true and honest message of separation?


...be honest.


...just thinking out loud.
FINALLY!

I was hung out to dry and you were no where to be found to agree or disagree with my explaination of what I thought you meant!
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