Do We Sin Every Day?

deacon blues · #1 03-31-2007, 05:36 AM

I have heard the statement, "we sin every day". While I certainly believe that at our best, we fall short of the glory of God, I find the above statement a bit disturbing. If having the Holy Ghost is incapable of helping us to overcome temptation to sin in a twenty four hour period, or for a couple of days, or maybe even a week, what purpose is there of having the Holy Ghost?

I for one don't believe in the "sin every day" doctrine. I believe it is possible for a child of God to overcome sin in a twenty four hour period. I would like to think that I have the hope that the longer I serve Jesus, the more I mature and the more I can overcome the sin and weight that besets me.

I am concerned that this type of teaching leaves the door open for people to excuse sin in their lives, maintaining the attitude that there is really nothing we can do about it, we just have to "die daily" in repentance and ask the Lord to forgive us and move on and try to do better next time. I believe "dying daily" means more than just repenting every day for our every day sinful lifestyle. I believe dying to ourselves in a deeper since is denying the flesh its sinful urges and ungodly tendencies BEFORE one crosses the line of sinful action. When one is truly dead to self, certainly conviction would settle in and repentance would occur for disobedience, but ultimately deadness to self should result in spiritual victories over sin and temptation.

Have you heard this doctrine preached and do you subscribe to it or reject it?

ReformedDave · #2 03-31-2007, 07:22 AM

I think there must be a balance. Remember sin is not just a deed but can be an absence of a deed, an attitude, a non-Christian view of an issue, many things. It's not thinking Christ's thoughts after Him. If we think that we can be sinless most of the time it's a low view of God and His righteous requirements and a high view of ourselves. I do believe in sanctification and it will be complete on the moment that I die. Just because I still sin does not exonerate me from the 'sinfulness' of it but I must remember that He's a better Saviour than I am a sinner.

Pastor Keith · #3 03-31-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

I have heard the statement, "we sin every day". While I certainly believe that at our best, we fall short of the glory of God, I find the above statement a bit disturbing. If having the Holy Ghost is incapable of helping us to overcome temptation to sin in a twenty four hour period, or for a couple of days, or maybe even a week, what purpose is there of having the Holy Ghost?

I for one don't believe in the "sin every day" doctrine. I believe it is possible for a child of God to overcome sin in a twenty four hour period. I would like to think that I have the hope that the longer I serve Jesus, the more I mature and the more I can overcome the sin and weight that besets me.

I am concerned that this type of teaching leaves the door open for people to excuse sin in their lives, maintaining the attitude that there is really nothing we can do about it, we just have to "die daily" in repentance and ask the Lord to forgive us and move on and try to do better next time. I believe "dying daily" means more than just repenting every day for our every day sinful lifestyle. I believe dying to ourselves in a deeper since is denying the flesh its sinful urges and ungodly tendencies BEFORE one crosses the line of sinful action. When one is truly dead to self, certainly conviction would settle in and repentance would occur for disobedience, but ultimately deadness to self should result in spiritual victories over sin and temptation.

Have you heard this doctrine preached and do you subscribe to it or reject it?

While in practice I think it is admirable to set that as a benchmark. We have to least realize the nature of sin.

God has declared us sinners by:

Divine edict-This has been remedied by the death of Jesus in our place
Birth-Remedied by taking us out of Adam's Family and adopting us into the family of Christ.
Nature-This is the real problem, the difficult is being led by the Holy Spirit perfectly, the only man that ever did that was Jesus Christ.

There are also different types of sin:

Omission-where I fail to even realize that I should do something, should I have loved that bum, shouldn't have thrown that gum wrapper down, paid more money in the offering etc.

Commission-willingly disobey God

The remedy for this level of sin is still the same, as I walk in the light (trust in Jesus) his blood cleanses me from all sin. Praise God!

Sister Alvear · #4 03-31-2007, 11:00 AM

Sin? I would think few of us have reached perfection level...I sure have not...our thoughts, words, deeds....

If you are perfect please pray for me...I am sure I am quite "fleshly" at times...

Sister Alvear · #5 03-31-2007, 11:03 AM

yes, His precious blood may we ever live under the fountain...

Michael The Disciple · #6 03-31-2007, 11:50 AM

Jesus left no excuse for sin.

Be ye perfect even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. Matt. 5:48

Is there a struggle? Yes.

Are we expected to be OVERCOMERS? How far should we take the battle against sin?

43: And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45: And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47: And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43-48

An "offence" is serious to Jesus Christ. If one ACTUALLY DOES sin every day its a good sign they do not know HIM.

3: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:3-4

Some people I think just say they sin every day because many consider one arrogant unless he makes such a confession.

Neck · #7 03-31-2007, 12:00 PM

Blessed is he that overcometh...

Actaeon · #8 03-31-2007, 12:01 PM

Is this a confession thread?

(if so I need to go call a few folks so they can come take advantage of it)

Michael The Disciple · #9 03-31-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Blessed is he that overcometh...

11: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev. 2:11

Those who do NOT OVERCOME will be hurt of the second death....the Lake of Fire.

Sister Alvear · #10 03-31-2007, 12:24 PM

I don't believe in just going out on purpose and sinning but we are not Jesus in the flesh so we all battle and must do as Paul did. He said he crucified the flesh everyday...so I am sure he too battled.
I once knew people that got into that never die message because of saying they were perfect.
It is His grace that helps us on our journey and his grace covers all we need.