Who is the puppet-master?

[Newman]

Originally Posted by 1399

Interesting, very interesting for sure. Lemme see what I can find. I read something about that trip.

Well, I appreciate your attitude.

[Sister Alvear]

Well for one thing Mr McCain does not have the ??????????????? about passport, birth cert. religion, ect...we all know he is an American...even the Brazilians know that and question about Obama...
Why would he be in political rallies in other countries?
Why has he not helped his own family?
Just where is his loyality?

I don´t mess much with politics but I wonder where Obama´s loyality really is. No doubt we shall find out in the future...He just may be the one chosen to bring about God´s plan for this world...

[TRFrance]

This is starting to get silly now.

[Connmega]

I wish we could just stick to the issues and intelligent discussion
Not all this conspiracy and hidden truth speculation...

Yes this is getting silly.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by 1399

A copy of Sen. Obama's birth certificate:

http://www.politifact.com/media/img/...hCertObama.jpg



An article about all the speculation by the St. Petersburg Times:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...icate-part-ii/



His school records from Harvard and Columbia????

He was the 1st Black president of the Harvard Law Review, discussed here:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11257.html


His time at Columbia is referenced here by the Columbia Univ newspaper advertising an event where Senators McCain and Obama appeared together:

http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/55370




Long and short of it, Newman, the website you read from is not unbiased and is just trying to spread lies about Sen. Obama.

If they don't agree with his politics, so be it.

But all the lying that people on the "Right" is doing is simply DISGUSTING!

Thank you for speaking out! I have refrained from posting about this election because I am so upset by the lies I see in publications and hear on conservative talk shows in the US and being embraced by apostolics. Like you I find this all very disgusting!

I have been a Republican all my life, but I am so turned off by the fear mongering tactics that I have witnessed this election that I will never support a Republican ever again.

I have one question for Christians. Should it not be that a Christian should be praying and seeking guidance from God as to who His choice is for President of the US? The office of president isn't a religious office, it's an executive office and we need the person who is best able to carry out those executive duties, not whether he reflects our religious convictions.

The Bible makes it very clear that God puts leaders into office and removes them from office. God has a plan and purpose for the US in prophecy and I am convinced that whoever is elected on November 4TH will be God's choice not yours or mine.

What if Obama is God's choice in moving events forward to fulfill last day prophecy? I believe you should vote your convictions, but don't deceive yourself into thinking that your choice or mine is anything but that.

I personally believe that Obama best represents the person who will be most apt to move events on the world stage in the direction prophesied in Scripture. This doesn't mean that I agree with all of his positions on the issues. I could be wrong as to who is God's choice and I guess the election will determine that.

Meanwhile I plan to look at the facts rather than the twisted partisan fear mongering going on right now in conservative circles.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Well for one thing Mr McCain does not have the ??????????????? about passport, birth cert. religion, ect...we all know he is an American...even the Brazilians know that and question about Obama...
Why would he be in political rallies in other countries?
Why has he not helped his own family?
Just where is his loyality?

I don´t mess much with politics but I wonder where Obama´s loyality really is. No doubt we shall find out in the future...He just may be the one chosen to bring about God´s plan for this world...

There are only questions in the minds of those who refuse to accept the facts. It's not convenient for folks to accept the truth. If they did that then they would have to start talking about policy and the policies of the last 8 years have been a total failure.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Connmega

I wish we could just stick to the issues and intelligent discussion
Not all this conspiracy and hidden truth speculation...

Yes this is getting silly.

Obama is the issue. As a presumably non-American wrote from across the ocean....

"You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so."


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[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

There are only questions in the minds of those who refuse to accept the facts. It's not convenient for folks to accept the truth. If they did that then they would have to start talking about policy and the policies of the last 8 years have been a total failure.

Total failure?

Broad brush alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Thank you for speaking out! I have refrained from posting about this election because I am so upset by the lies I see in publications and hear on conservative talk shows in the US and being embraced by apostolics. Like you I find this all very disgusting!

I have been a Republican all my life, but I am so turned off by the fear mongering tactics that I have witnessed this election that I will never support a Republican ever again.

I have one question for Christians. Should it not be that a Christian should be praying and seeking guidance from God as to who His choice is for President of the US? The office of president isn't a religious office, it's an executive office and we need the person who is best able to carry out those executive duties, not whether he reflects our religious convictions.

The Bible makes it very clear that God puts leaders into office and removes them from office. God has a plan and purpose for the US in prophecy and I am convinced that whoever is elected on November 4TH will be God's choice not yours or mine.

What if Obama is God's choice in moving events forward to fulfill last day prophecy? I believe you should vote your convictions, but don't deceive yourself into thinking that your choice or mine is anything but that.

I personally believe that Obama best represents the person who will be most apt to move events on the world stage in the direction prophesied in Scripture. This doesn't mean that I agree with all of his positions on the issues. I could be wrong as to who is God's choice and I guess the election will determine that.

Meanwhile I plan to look at the facts rather than the twisted partisan fear mongering going on right now in conservative circles.

UMM..... Count me shocked. But in fact who we vote for may have a profound impact on the lives of Christians around the world. Do you know what happened in Kenya? And what is now transpiring in Indonesia?

Got to run....

[TRFrance]

Has anyone ever provided any solid evidence that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii, (where both of his parents were attending school at the time, and where they both got married 6 months before he was born)?

Anyone?

If so, please present the evidence for us to see.