Do you see AFF and former-NFCF as being any different?

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I think that really interesting conversations can, and at times should be passionate. It is very evident that we don't always agree. The important thing to remember is that there IS a line we should never cross.

That line is crossed when we profane God's holy things. These could be His Word, His ministers, or His people. Some things should not be touched.

I feel it is absolutely fine to bash ideas and even some man-made doctrines. But it is never okay to slander the things of God. Looking back, there are some discussions I regret being involved in. Not necessarily because I did anything wrong, but because there was no real value in the discussion. (Philippians 4:8)

Problems arise when some of us do not know the difference or believe man made doctrines ARE the "things of God"

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Problems arise when some of us do not know the difference or believe man made doctrines ARE the "things of God"

not necessarily.... the problems arose when people stopping attacking the idea/concept and started attacking the "opposing" person(s)

Originally Posted by Malvaro

not necessarily.... the problems arose when people stopping attacking the idea/concept and started attacking the "opposing" person(s)

Then again, some people seemed to think that attacking the post/idea/concept was attacking the person.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Chan

Then again, some people seemed to think that attacking the post/idea/concept was attacking the person.

I prefer attacking the person...why waste the time arguing with every single post? If you make the poster look like a moron, you have saved yourself looooots of time

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Problems arise when some of us do not know the difference or believe man made doctrines ARE the "things of God"

But for many of us, what some consider just "man made " doctrines or rules, they are the things of God...so there will be endless debate on that....! So people do become passionate about those things....it will always be...

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

But for many of us, what some consider just "man made " doctrines or rules, they are the things of God...so there will be endless debate on that....! So people do become passionate about those things....it will always be...

Yup ..it will never end. Only at the throne will it end.

[Trouvere]

Fish,fun....hum....not too different.I wonder where Brothers Strange and Blume are?

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I think that really interesting conversations can, and at times should be passionate. It is very evident that we don't always agree. The important thing to remember is that there IS a line we should never cross.

That line is crossed when we profane God's holy things. These could be His Word, His ministers, or His people. Some things should not be touched.

I feel it is absolutely fine to bash ideas and even some man-made doctrines. But it is never okay to slander the things of God. Looking back, there are some discussions I regret being involved in. Not necessarily because I did anything wrong, but because there was no real value in the discussion. (Philippians 4:8)

key concept: attacking the idea/principle, but not the person....

NFCF debates often led to personal attacks; thats where it was bad....

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I think that really interesting conversations can, and at times should be passionate. It is very evident that we don't always agree. The important thing to remember is that there IS a line we should never cross.

That line is crossed when we profane God's holy things. These could be His Word, His ministers, or His people. Some things should not be touched.

I feel it is absolutely fine to bash ideas and even some man-made doctrines. But it is never okay to slander the things of God. Looking back, there are some discussions I regret being involved in. Not necessarily because I did anything wrong, but because there was no real value in the discussion. (Philippians 4:8)

What things constitute "the things of God"? How people interpret specific passages of scripture? What particular practices a local assembly engages in that are based merely on interpretations of scripture (or simply on man-made, i.e. not scriptural, traditions)?

[IAintMovin]

Our goal and purpose in bringing this forum to life is a lot of what I have read in this thread.

A safe home to post
No preacher bashing - from those that would be considered ultra lib to those that would be considered ultra con
No tearing down of the Message - Acts 2:38 - John 3:5
Respect one for another
Good debate
Passionate responses
Dumb jokes (had to put that last one in there to give me a right to be able to post.


It must be working 203 members as of this writing.

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