*SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugeration - Page 6

2020Vision · #1 12-18-2008, 03:31 PM

Feliz Navidad!

2020Vision · #2 12-18-2008, 03:58 PM

By the way, I like what the great Dr. Laura says about shame

http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/09/17/shame-revisited/

Sweet Pea · #3 12-18-2008, 10:39 PM

This just kind of gives the real picture.....

As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.....Joshua 24:15

A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:
'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 yr. old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together.'

So the doctor said: 'Ok, and what do you want me to do?'

She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.'

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.'

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care of 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!

'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be ok with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution. The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The crime is the same!

deacon blues · #4 12-18-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet pea

this just kind of gives the real picture.....

As for me and my house we will serve the lord.....joshua 24:15

a worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:
'doctor, i have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 yr. Old and i'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together.'

so the doctor said: 'ok, and what do you want me to do?'

she said: 'i want you to end my pregnancy, and i'm counting on your help with this.'

the doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'i think i have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.'

she smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: 'you see, in order for you not to have to take care of 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'no doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!

'i agree', the doctor replied. 'but you seemed to be ok with it, so i thought maybe that was the best solution. The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The crime is the same!

great story!!!!

SOUNWORTHY · #5 12-19-2008, 09:12 PM

Aman!!!!!!!!

Aquila · #6 12-28-2008, 08:03 PM

The "Pro-Life" political movement is dead. We will never outlaw abortion.
The "Pro-Family" political movement is dead. We cannot prevent gay marriage.

What we need is to INFLUENCE our culture by example and teaching. We can teach the value of life and serve our world by providing pro-family services, ministries, and alternatives. We can refuse to perform gay marriages in our churches and hold traditional marriage in high esteem among our congregations.

The world will be the world. It's time for the church to be the church and stop relying on worldly political power to accomplish a spiritual mission.

Sam · #7 12-28-2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila

The "Pro-Life" political movement is dead. We will never outlaw abortion.
The "Pro-Family" political movement is dead. We cannot prevent gay marriage.

What we need is to INFLUENCE our culture by example and teaching. We can teach the value of life and serve out world by providing pro-family services, ministries, and alternatives. We can refuse to perform gay marriages in our churches and hold traditional marriage in high esteem among our congregations.

The world will be the world. It's time for the church to be the church and stop relying on political power to accomplish a spiritual mission.

Now this is a reasonable post.
You don't think the whole country should be governed by "church rules"?

Aquila · #8 12-29-2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

Now this is a reasonable post.
You don't think the whole country should be governed by "church rules"?

Thanks Bro. Sam.

I'm a realist. First, I don't see it as possible. Second, I think it would be counter productive. People would resent the church. We live by these rules because we are regenerated, but the world isn't. It wouldn't work. The bitter reality is that the world will be the world. The question is, will the church wake up and be the church?