Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I think that's an unfair accusation. That would be like me saying that the other side is all about spiritual pride. It's a complicated issue.
Brother you have brought the outward into debate with the posts about your wife.
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Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Sis. Cindy, I think you missed my point.
I may have. Y'all are still in my prayers and hope I am in yours.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
The UPC was changed in a way that was unethical and deceitful. This betrayed a lot of people. I don't think we need to rehash the outright lies that were told to get the voting ministers to go along with an extra-parliamentary romp.
So what's wrong with "ex-UPCers" who point out these and other errors?
Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by pelathais
The UPC was changed in a way that was unethical and deceitful. This betrayed a lot of people. I don't think we need to rehash the outright lies that were told to get the voting ministers to go along with an extra-parliamentary romp.
So what's wrong with "ex-UPCers" who point out these and other errors?
Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Identity ....!!!!
You don't have an identity?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by pelathais
The UPC was changed in a way that was unethical and deceitful. This betrayed a lot of people. I don't think we need to rehash the outright lies that were told to get the voting ministers to go along with an extra-parliamentary romp.
So what's wrong with "ex-UPCers" who point out these and other errors?
Dialog on doctrine is fine and healthy. Hopefully everyone is looking for truth but it's the attitude and wording as Ferd pointed out that causes offence when it is not done in love and meekness.
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Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by pelathais
The UPC was changed in a way that was unethical and deceitful. This betrayed a lot of people. I don't think we need to rehash the outright lies that were told to get the voting ministers to go along with an extra-parliamentary romp.
So what's wrong with "ex-UPCers" who point out these and other errors?
if you are talking about 1992 then I dont disagree with you.
but that is a different argument than what is being brought here.
somehow we are sanitizing the history of the Apostolic movemennt because some UPCI preachers want to make sure we (the current UPCI) doesnt change its idenity?
two different things bro. Two very different things.
and just to be clear, I have some PCI roots. I am pretty well versed in what those old PCI guys taught. to suggest that they didnt have a distintive Apostilc idenity would be a false statement at best.
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Re: Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more ....
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Originally Posted by Ferd
if you are talking about 1992 then I dont disagree with you.
but that is a different argument than what is being brought here.
somehow we are sanitizing the history of the Apostolic movemennt because some UPCI preachers want to make sure we (the current UPCI) doesnt change its idenity?
two different things bro. Two very different things.
and just to be clear, I have some PCI roots. I am pretty well versed in what those old PCI guys taught. to suggest that they didnt have a distintive Apostilc idenity would be a false statement at best.
Their distinctive was compromised by a huge push right after the merger to establish one group's "identity" at the expense of the other. But if you don't agree that '92 was deceitful then you may not be that familiar with the events and the things that were done.
It was all done to "sanitize" the identy of the UPC and purge the PCI influence. When I was first licensed, every UPC minister was required to read the writings of John Dearing. Brother Dearing was excised and cut out without comment right after '92. Most of the resolutions and moves since the merger have beeen done to undermine an eclipse the influence of the "PCI's" approach to things.
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