No More Walls blog show seeks Apostolic Unity - Page 11

EA · #**101** 02-18-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Legitimate question ... can Sister Susan Smith ... wife of Dr. Horace Smith, prelate of the PAW, sit at the Apostolic table of the Atomic Preacher and Apostle Sparks?

http://www.afcchicago.org/bio/bio_bishop.asp

I know you would not exclude her, Ed.

Would her picture and interview grace the pages of MORE WALLS????

Um, yes I would.

She and I have nothing in common doctrinally.

Zilch, nada, nothing.

Nothing personal, but the PAW does not resemble anything I want to be a part of. Has nothing to do with race. Has everything to do with their recent proclivity to accept Trinitarianism.

EA · #**102** 02-18-2009, 03:28 PM

Oh please, you folks think anything that breathes qualifies as "Apostolic."

Same thing with "Pentecostal."

Give me a break.

You cry for tolerance but you are the most intolerant bunch around.

Rhoni · #**103** 02-18-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976

No offence to anyone but the attitude of apostolic757 is why outsiders think the way they do about upc/apostolic church..And you cannot get souls in the church with an attitude like this.

SDG · #**104** 02-18-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Um, yes I would.

She and I have nothing in common doctrinally.

Zilch, nada, nothing.

Nothing personal, but the PAW does not resemble anything I want to be a part of. Has nothing to do with race. Has everything to do with their recent proclivity to accept Trinitarianism.

Interesting ... last I looked PAW is Oneness, Ed.

Do they allow Trinnies to speak at their church ... yes.

Is that accepting the doctrine of the Trinity ... hmmm ...???

PAW is still a 3 stepping org ... so yes you have quite a bit in common.

Ed have you ever fellowshipped with Trinnies?

EA · #**105** 02-18-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Interesting ... last I looked PAW is Oneness, Ed.

Do they allow Trinnies to speak at their church ... yes.

Is that accepting the doctrine of the Trinity ... hmmm ...???

PAW is still a 3 stepping org ... so yes you have quite a bit in common.

Ed have you ever fellowshipped with Trinnies?

Sure I have, but they do not call themselves "Apostolic" or "Oneness Pentecostal." They don't deliberately misinform as you have a propensity to do. Daniel, I loathe hidden agendas.

Admit it, you despise what you call three-step doctrine. You do not want tolerance and inclusion, you want eradication of all three-step doctrine.

Tolerating false doctrine is a big no-no, according to our Lord and Saviour.

mizpeh · #**106** 02-18-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Sure I have, but they do not call themselves "Apostolic" or "Oneness Pentecostal." They don't deliberately misinform as you have a propensity to do. Daniel, I loathe hidden agendas.

Admit it, you despise what you call three-step doctrine. You do not want tolerance and inclusion, you want eradication of all three-step doctrine.

Tolerating false doctrine is a big no-no, according to our Lord and Saviour.

So if the PCI view was the majority held view in the UPC back in '72, would Daniel have become the Lee Westburg of that group?

EA · #**107** 02-18-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

So if the PCI view was the majority held view in the UPC back in '72, would Daniel have become the Lee Westburg of that group?

Absolutely.

deltaguitar · #**108** 02-18-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Sure I have, but they do not call themselves "Apostolic" or "Oneness Pentecostal." They don't deliberately misinform as you have a propensity to do. Daniel, I loathe hidden agendas.

Admit it, you despise what you call three-step doctrine. You do not want tolerance and inclusion, you want eradication of all three-step doctrine.

Tolerating false doctrine is a big no-no, according to our Lord and Saviour.

For me personally, the three-step doctrine has brought nothing but confusion and frustration to my life. While the three-steps are actually good and should be followed, the confusion that results from this doctrine is what makes me angry.

I tried so hard to find God through the three-step doctrine. I loved the doctrine and was taught it by well meaning loving parents but those three-steps had me horribly confused and it wasn't until I stopped worrying so much about steps and just fell into the arms of Christ did God start working in my life.

Personally I don't like the doctrine and I would send a new convert to a Baptist church before I would send them to my local UPC.

EA · #**109** 02-18-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

For me personally, the three-step doctrine has brought nothing but confusion and frustration to my life. While the three-steps are actually good and should be followed, the confusion that results from this doctrine is what makes me angry.

I tried so hard to find God through the three-step doctrine. I loved the doctrine and was taught it by well meaning loving parents but those three-steps had me horribly confused and it wasn't until I stopped worrying so much about steps and just fell into the arms of Christ did God start working in my life.

Personally I don't like the doctrine and I would send a new convert to a Baptist church before I would send them to my local UPC.

Gee, that's not very tolerant of you.

So, let's see. You are willing to accept Trintarianism, but not three-step doctrine.

Got it!

mizpeh · #**110** 02-18-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin

Gee, that's not very tolerant of you.

So, let's see. You are willing to accept Trintarianism, but not three-step doctrine.

Got it!

What is so wrong with repentance, baptism in Jesus name, and receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues like the first disciples did on the day of Pentecost?