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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I understand that, but any way you look at it, vs 2 still says God created by and through the Son.
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Yes, but as I said, if this points to the incarnation and God had never spoken by the Son in previous times, the Son is incarnational (Oneness) as opposed to Trinitarians who believe the Son is not incarnational. So what is left? As I said, the Logos.
God spoke all things into existence (see
Gen 1)
Heb 11:3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
And He created By Himself
Isa 44:24 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: "I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,
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