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Old 05-07-2009, 12:17 PM
Walks_in_islam Walks_in_islam is offline
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By birth and for 40 years after. The turncoats and disgraces to America are running America's banks, sitting in America's civil service offices, squatting in America's capital, and stealing American families blind. I never did a thing to America but do my job and pay taxes. Figures you would call that a disgrace. That is merely the "New America" speaking. You are the disgrace. You swallow whatever those morons give you to eat, believe what they tell you to believe, listen to what they tell you to listen to, and do what they tell you to do. Take care you do not choke.

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Old 05-07-2009, 01:07 PM
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Gee I live here. I do not see this at all. All my co-workers have their own homes. What's weird is that they do NOT have mortgages. Different banking system. Fee-based. An eye-opener for me. But - maybe you know something I do not. Something besides how to apply an even shiny coat of hairspray or tuck your belly behind your belt for church. You probably "heard about" or "read about' something, right? The cure for ignorance is travel. If you can afford it, someday, after all your credit cards are paid and stuff, why don't you VISIT sometime then go home and write about what you experience rather than re-write something someone else (who has also probably not travelled either) talked about.

I am american, and i can state with flat up fact that fewer numbers of saudi women are mistreated here than those who are beat up, raped, and murdered every year in the US. In fact, I know none. I have not seen, read about, or heard about a single murder here since I came. Weird. I know a LOT of saudis. They DOTE on their wives. Very strong, proud families. On the other hand, most of those living in poverty there in the US are women. Re-recommend that you address this issue at home before patting your own backs as 'generous' and then looking overseas for strangers to example as "worse than me so I can sleep peacefully in my mortgaged home under my credit budget".
BTW, I grew up in Egypt and don't have any debt (that is deliberate).

I agree with you in some area's.

  1. That our country is run by a bunch of useless, thieving morons from corporate offices to the White House. Has been for quite awhile. I typically vote the constitutionalist ticket.
  2. That most of the problems we have in the Middle east exist because the aforementioned morons can't seem to get a grip on the fact that America was in part founded on the principle of not meddling in other country's business.
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:46 PM
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I grew up in the US and was a full part of the culture reflected by the posts here. The cultural differences are discussed at length here and on other parts of this forum. The difference between what I see and observe and what I read here and in other places amaze me sometimes. It is easy to brush off opinions from those who tolerate 16,000 murders a year on their own streets and spend so much time, energy, and resources searching for bits and pieces of information to prove how great they are or how right they are or how much better they have it. I will not embrace the "lifestyle of debt and greed" ever again. No matter how patriotic that lifestyle "appears to be". There is nothing, in my mind, to vote for. No matter who is on the ticket I know for sure that by the time they finish their job in their elected office I, my children, and now my grandchildren will somehow be additionally robbed.

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BTW, I grew up in Egypt and don't have any debt (that is deliberate).

I agree with you in some area's.

  1. That our country is run by a bunch of useless, thieving morons from corporate offices to the White House. Has been for quite awhile. I typically vote the constitutionalist ticket.
  2. That most of the problems we have in the Middle east exist because the aforementioned morons can't seem to get a grip on the fact that America was in part founded on the principle of not meddling in other country's business.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:02 AM
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I grew up in the US and was a full part of the culture reflected by the posts here. The cultural differences are discussed at length here and on other parts of this forum. The difference between what I see and observe and what I read here and in other places amaze me sometimes. It is easy to brush off opinions from those who tolerate 16,000 murders a year on their own streets and spend so much time, energy, and resources searching for bits and pieces of information to prove how great they are or how right they are or how much better they have it. I will not embrace the "lifestyle of debt and greed" ever again. No matter how patriotic that lifestyle "appears to be". There is nothing, in my mind, to vote for. No matter who is on the ticket I know for sure that by the time they finish their job in their elected office I, my children, and now my grandchildren will somehow be additionally robbed.
It sounds like Saudi has opened up quite a bit. We almost moved there in 1975, at the time all the expat oilfield people had to live in isolated compounds and weren't allowed much contact with the people.

My observations aren't all just from propaganda, Sharia law can be really harsh on women, and Wahhabi's are so strict that their standards would make even the most conservative Apostolic shriek. I grew up around Sunni's, and they were good Sunni's like I was a good catholic. Funny though that religion was never a thing to come between friends.

As for Obama wrecking the economy? It was wrecked before he took the helm. But like someone said above, I find the man very very frightening.

If it wasn't for ministry calling and such I would possibly embrace the expat lifestyle once again, possibly never to return. Unlike all my neighbors I am not tied down by a mountain of debt. Don't have much, but I am free, and that is priceless to me. Even if the day job was to go away tomorrow it would pinch, but me and mine wouldn't be in a tent and dining at the soup kitchen over it.

To be honest about all I love about the USA today is the landscape and the ideas upon which it was founded. Does that make me a traitor, nope, it makes me a Patriot. Because I believe in the constitution and bill of rights just like it was written, before the yahoos twisted it beyond all recognition. The traitors are in corporate boardrooms, plush offices on wall street, the house of representatives, the senate, the supreme court, with king traitor himself sitting in a funny shaped office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

You have probably heard this joke somwhere in your travels....

How do you get an American to do anything?







Offer him money.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:50 AM
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(are Egyptian drivers just plain crazy like the drivers here?)
Yup. Egyptian cabbies could give NYC cabbies the heebie-jeebies. My mom and I were in a cab when the driver saw a cobra in the road. The guy stopped, rattled off to us to wait, grabbed his non-paying passenger reset tool (big stick) and went out and waged valiant battle with the mighty snake. He finally killed the thing, cut it's head off and threw the body in the trunk.

Got back in the cab, and from what we could translate bbq snake was on the menu for the night.

I miss that place. Alexandria is an awesome city.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:36 AM
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HAHA it was probably good too. I've had worse I am sure in other parts of the world. My wife is begging to see Cairo. Probably late this year. After it cools off. Until then we will roast right here all summer I am thinking. I'll give ya a heads up if they dont boot me before then.

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Yup. Egyptian cabbies could give NYC cabbies the heebie-jeebies. My mom and I were in a cab when the driver saw a cobra in the road. The guy stopped, rattled off to us to wait, grabbed his non-paying passenger reset tool (big stick) and went out and waged valiant battle with the mighty snake. He finally killed the thing, cut it's head off and threw the body in the trunk.

Got back in the cab, and from what we could translate bbq snake was on the menu for the night.

I miss that place. Alexandria is an awesome city.
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HAHA it was probably good too. I've had worse I am sure in other parts of the world. My wife is begging to see Cairo. Probably late this year. After it cools off. Until then we will roast right here all summer I am thinking. I'll give ya a heads up if they dont boot me before then.
Another great place. I didn't get to spend much time there, the Museum of Antiquities is not to be missed. I don't believe they let people go into the pyramids anymore, but I am sure the camel ride around them and the Sphinx is still operating

The Cairo Hilton has rooms with views looking at the Pyramids across the Nile, (at least it did in 1974)

Alexandria is nice most all times of the year, breezes coming off the Mediterranean makes it easy to see why the Ptolemy's built their palaces there.
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