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Old 05-10-2009, 08:37 PM
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Do you think it is a bad/good representation of Christianity to wear head coverings Everywhere such as the office, grocery store, auto shop, garden,etc. These head coverings include church hats, veils, bucket hats. chapel veils, wraps,etc. Is God requiring this through the scripture? Are the churches who teach this taking scripture to extreme and out of context?

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Old 05-10-2009, 08:49 PM
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I think those who do wear head coverings everywhere are probably surrounded by a good number of people who are wondering how big of a bomb they have strapped underneath their robe.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. (1 Corinthians 11:10-15 KJV)

The uncut hair of a woman was given by God as a covering. Those who advocate the veil are advocating as belief that something man made can supercede something God gave as acceptable as a covering. God instituted what the covering was to be on a woman, and that covering is uncut hair.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:33 AM
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Re: Head Coverings

DO WE REALLY HAVE TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD AGAIN? why not look at the other threads on here about this very same subject to see what is thought.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:37 AM
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For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. (1 Corinthians 11:10-15 KJV)

The uncut hair of a woman was given by God as a covering. Those who advocate the veil are advocating as belief that something man made can supercede something God gave as acceptable as a covering. God instituted what the covering was to be on a woman, and that covering is uncut hair.
Thank you and this is correct.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:50 AM
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For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. (1 Corinthians 11:10-15 KJV)

The uncut hair of a woman was given by God as a covering. Those who advocate the veil are advocating as belief that something man made can supercede something God gave as acceptable as a covering. God instituted what the covering was to be on a woman, and that covering is uncut hair.
Then why did God tell them that if they were to enter into the Nazarite vow they were to not cut their hair? He told that to both men and women. Then after they finish the vow they are to shave it off. Obviously men and women both cut their hair. The long hair is her glory. NOTHING about that says uncut. This is another one of those circular arguments. It does not do any of us any good. It does not glorify God. Those who cut are never going to agree with those who do not and vice versa. Let it drop and focus on the things that bind not on the differences.
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Then why did God tell them that if they were to enter into the Nazarite vow they were to not cut their hair? He told that to both men and women. Then after they finish the vow they are to shave it off. Obviously men and women both cut their hair. The long hair is her glory. NOTHING about that says uncut. This is another one of those circular arguments. It does not do any of us any good. It does not glorify God. Those who cut are never going to agree with those who do not and vice versa. Let it drop and focus on the things that bind not on the differences.
I will quote you from the other thread.

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you know by now that you are entering a circular argument here. This is just one of those things that keeps going round and round. Either they see it or they don't.
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Then why did God tell them that if they were to enter into the Nazarite vow they were to not cut their hair? He told that to both men and women. Then after they finish the vow they are to shave it off. Obviously men and women both cut their hair. The long hair is her glory. NOTHING about that says uncut. This is another one of those circular arguments. It does not do any of us any good. It does not glorify God. Those who cut are never going to agree with those who do not and vice versa. Let it drop and focus on the things that bind not on the differences.
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I will quote you from the other thread.
I was one step ahead of you. =)
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Do you think it is a bad/good representation of Christianity to wear head coverings Everywhere such as the office, grocery store, auto shop, garden,etc. These head coverings include church hats, veils, bucket hats. chapel veils, wraps,etc. Is God requiring this through the scripture? Are the churches who teach this taking scripture to extreme and out of context?

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Re: Head Coverings

While not trying to argue for the no cut, no trim under any cicumstances or you go to hell side....Why? Clearly the oath would be the exception on both counts. Men were to cut their hair clearly...short according to Paul but under the vow they were not for as long as the kept the vow.

BTW the vow under the law was a limited duration and at the end both men and women were to shave their heads.
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