Conspiracy Theories

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Bowas

I am not really prone to conspiracy theories but it is rather obvious to me this thread was created for the sole purpose of finding out who, on this web site, held such tendencies and then to mark them for observation and perhaps a "visit" to a "special place" to "reducate" those with cetain "delusions". Nice try buddy. But you got to get up prrreeetttyyy early in the morning to pull one over on us here.

I need to get me some of that tinfoil, lol. That's some goooood stuff.

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Bowas

I am not really prone to conspiracy theories but it is rather obvious to me this thread was created for the sole purpose of finding out who, on this web site, held such tendencies and then to mark them for observation and perhaps a "visit" to a "special place" to "reducate" those with cetain "delusions". Nice try buddy. But you got to get up prrreeetttyyy early in the morning to pull one over on us here.

Don't look now, but we just repositioned a drone to get a better look.

[StillStanding]

Black helicopters circling above!

[tstew]

Okay just for fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215cs8SrVd0

Now is it possible that there is absolutely nothing to this? Yes. However, it is the multitude of little real nuggets like this that make people wonder.

Incidentally at the end of this clip, it mentions the fact that one of the four video tapes that were taken from people who were filming in the Plaza has never been released. It is apparently the one that was taken by a lady seen in the Zapruder film facing him and the infamous grassy knoll. I believe the official FBI position is that that particular tape was misplaced.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by tstew

Some of the talk about conspiracy theories as well as some documentaries I've seen recently has me wondering. Are there any conspiracy theories that you think may have some validity to them. I used to be dismissive of all of the popular, consistent conspiracy theories, but I have recently seen things that make me wonder.

I am convinced now that some factions of our government are capable of anything, especially years ago when accountability and secrecy were a bit different.

I have seen very compelling information on the JFK assasination that seems to almost beyond a doubt point to a larger conspiracy.

Some of the criticisms of the moon landing are indeed interesting.

I used to dismiss it all as a bunch of kooks and operated under the impression that no factions of our noble government would do those sorts of things.

The moon landings happened. You can see the sites and even some of the trails of footprints with a telescope. There's more at Moon Base Clavius and Wikipedia. Do you really think the Soviets would have let us get a way with such a stunt as hoaxing a moon landing?

"Factions" of our government are capable of doing whatever a human being is capable of doing - and that's pretty nasty stuff - or fairly noble stuff, depending upon the human beings involved.

There have been "conspiracies" that have done terrible things. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study comes to mind.

Watergate, and the motivator behind Watergate - Richard Daley's election fraud in 1960 that deprived Vice President Nixon of the election are also real conspiracies.

The danger is that when we trumpet every or even most "conspiracies" we create a climate where the real stuff ends up being ignored.

Did you know that the electoral votes of Washington state and Wisconsin were fraudulently given over to John Kerry in 2004? No? Was it because of the false accusations of voter fraud and conspiracy in Ohio that diverted our attention?

I use Heinlein's Law for Conspiracies when trying to sort through all of the intrigue. It's a corollary from one of Napoleon's political maxims -

"Never attribute to conspiracy that which is sufficiently explained by sheer incompetence."

The claims that "9/11 Was an Inside Job" come to mind here...

[Esther]

Originally Posted by tstew

Okay just for fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=215cs8SrVd0

Now is it possible that there is absolutely nothing to this? Yes. However, it is the multitude of little real nuggets like this that make people wonder.

Incidentally at the end of this clip, it mentions the fact that one of the four video tapes that were taken from people who were filming in the Plaza has never been released. It is apparently the one that was taken by a lady seen in the Zapruder film facing him and the infamous grassy knoll. I believe the official FBI position is that that particular tape was misplaced.

Tstew very interesting clip. I have not seen that one before. I do believe there was a conspiracy to kill JFK within our own government. I would not doubt that Johnson had his hand in this at all.