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04-20-2007, 11:41 AM
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THanks to all those who have responded.
More questions coming. But not today, I'm going to set up my tent. I'll be back Monday.
God bless you all.
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Eh....did you read mine yet?
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04-20-2007, 11:42 AM
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Eh....did you read mine yet?
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ONe more reply.
Yes I did, in fact I printed it off to make notes.
Gone camping!!
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04-20-2007, 11:43 AM
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ONe more reply.
Yes I did, in fact I printed it off to make notes.
Gone camping!!
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Gone Camping? But it's raining!!!
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01-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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01-21-2011, 08:34 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
I don't see Jesus' Words as a command, but as a Promise. As pointed out by others, the Holy Spirit could not be given until after the death, burial and resuirrection of the Lord. The promise of salvation, and all its benefits which includes the baptism of the Holy Ghost had not yet been purchased . Thats why the Holy Spirit could not come until the Gospel had been fulfilled with Jesus ' death, burial, and resurrection.
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01-21-2011, 08:37 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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I don't see Jesus' Words as a command, but as a Promise. As pointed out by others, the Holy Spirit could not be given until after the death, burial and resuirrection of the Lord. The promise of salvation, and all its benefits which includes the baptism of the Holy Ghost had not yet been purchased . Thats why the Holy Spirit could not come until the Gospel had been fulfilled aith Jesus ' death, burial, and resurrection.
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I don't see it as a command or a promise. It sounds like an impartation to me. If he had stretched forth his hand and said, "Be ye healed" I'm guessing that person would have been healed.
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01-21-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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I don't see it as a command or a promise. It sounds like an impartation to me. If he had stretched forth his hand and said, "Be ye healed" I'm guessing that person would have been healed.
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I see it as a promise due to the fact that Jeus referred to the Gift of the Holy Ghost as "the promise of the Father" 3 times.
Luk 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
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01-21-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Originally Posted by OneAccord
I see it as a promise due to the fact that Jeus referred to the Gift of the Holy Ghost as "the promise of the Father" 3 times.
Luk 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
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I suppose this could spiral off into a side discussion, which ultimately goes nowhere, about what it meant when people were "full of the Holy Spirit" before the Day of Pentecost.
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01-21-2011, 08:58 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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Originally Posted by Irreligious
I suppose this could spiral off into a side discussion, which ultimately goes nowhere, about what it meant when people were "full of the Holy Spirit" before the Day of Pentecost.
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Regardless there was something, some measure or fullness they did not have prior to Acts.
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01-21-2011, 08:59 PM
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Re: Receive YE the H.G.
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I suppose this could spiral off into a side discussion, which ultimately goes nowhere, about what it meant when people were "full of the Holy Spirit" before the Day of Pentecost.
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Thats true, that is a separate discussuin for a separate thread. Don't want to muddy the waters up here with a side discussion. But then, I don't think it would have to go no where. I think it could go somewhere if we all opened our minds for deeper undertanding. Like this discusion. One sees it as a command, another ses it as a promise, another sees it as an impartation. Isn't it true that it very well could be all 3? You know, 3 in 1? Now where have we heard that before?
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Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.
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