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06-25-2012, 04:49 AM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Now my curiosity is peaked.
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06-25-2012, 02:18 PM
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A Child Of The Most High
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
Perhaps you should have watched the entire message.
From my personal experience, sometimes preachers begin preaching a message with some very unusual statements and it leaves me sitting there tense. But by halfway through the message, he brings it all together and the context shifts.
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06-25-2012, 02:21 PM
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All Because Jesus...
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by BroJoe
Perhaps you should have watched the entire message.
From my personal experience, sometimes preachers begin preaching a message with some very unusual statements and it leaves me sitting there tense. But by halfway through the message, he brings it all together and the context shifts.
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Brother... though I didn't watch the video... I have sat through this "little gods" message in person... as stated before, at New Life here in Nashville. I sat for multiple services, and have the notes from hearing not only the heresy of the "little gods" message, but also the "we are eternal beings eternally past" teaching as well.
So for those that didn't listen to the whole thing... I did... and it's false doctrine and dangerous teaching....
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06-25-2012, 02:27 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Brother... though I didn't watch the video... I have sat through this "little gods" message in person... as stated before, at New Life here in Nashville. I sat for multiple services, and have the notes from hearing not only the heresy of the "little gods" message, but also the "we are eternal beings eternally past" teaching as well.
So for those that didn't listen to the whole thing... I did... and it's false doctrine and dangerous teaching....
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You are a member at New Life Apostolic Church in Nashville? We are almost neighbors as I also live in Middle Tennessee.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 02:32 PM
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All Because Jesus...
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by CC1
You are a member at New Life Apostolic Church in Nashville? We are almost neighbors as I also live in Middle Tennessee.
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No I did attend there, and was ALJC... wasn't a member since they (like so many Apostolic churches) don't have membership.
I left New Life because of the Dr. Jeffers circus and gave up my credentials in the ALJC over it. I was saddened that the Pastor, who I still love greatly, felt he would take a stand with Dr. Jeffers, and has had him back on various occassions since.
The junk that Jeffers taught was so bad, those of us that left felt it was better to leave, than to sit and not be in unity with leadership since leadership had placed such a high regard for Dr. Jeffers teaching.
That is why I am now ordained with Emmanuel Churches of Christ-Pentecostal.
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06-25-2012, 02:40 PM
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Administrator
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
I am now ordained with Emmanuel Churches of Christ-Pentecostal.
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Are they Oneness Pentecostal? What is their story? What sets them apart from the UPC or ALJC ? Feel free to answer via PM or by starting a thread about them. Until you posted about this org. here on AFF I don't think I had ever heard of them.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-25-2012, 02:29 PM
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A Child Of The Most High
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
Brother... though I didn't watch the video... I have sat through this "little gods" message in person... as stated before, at New Life here in Nashville. I sat for multiple services, and have the notes from hearing not only the heresy of the "little gods" message, but also the "we are eternal beings eternally past" teaching as well.
So for those that didn't listen to the whole thing... I did... and it's false doctrine and dangerous teaching....
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Hey Bro,
I've heard Jeffers several times, I even have had him sign my Bible and give me a word. In all of his sermons he has always, 100% of the time directed all glory, power, eternity, to Jesus. He has never...again he has never, that I have heard, made himself out to be something more than he is.
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06-25-2012, 02:35 PM
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All Because Jesus...
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by BroJoe
Hey Bro,
I've heard Jeffers several times, I even have had him sign my Bible and give me a word. In all of his sermons he has always, 100% of the time directed all glory, power, eternity, to Jesus. He has never...again he has never, that I have heard, made himself out to be something more than he is.
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You can do everything you stated in that post... and still preach some heresy among smatterings of Truth. The Little God's teaching is on the verge of Dominionism... at the very least Word of Faith.
And to preach that we are souls that existed prior to birth... that we were eternally existent in the past... that's just not Bible.
If you will read my original posts... the first time I heard him, I loved him... but all false prophets use some truth.
The man's teachings as a whole, have great error... and that is why there is so much controversy over him..... at least here on the East Coast.
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06-25-2012, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Migrate around the Mid West, from Michigan - Indiana
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by BroJoe
Hey Bro,
I've heard Jeffers several times, I even have had him sign my Bible and give me a word. In all of his sermons he has always, 100% of the time directed all glory, power, eternity, to Jesus. He has never...again he has never, that I have heard, made himself out to be something more than he is.
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Jeffers creepeth me out. . . . . .
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I have been a lot of places and seen a lot of things in the world of Christian followers.. I just have a few questions, CAN I THINK OUT LOUD? 
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06-26-2012, 07:23 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by BroJoe
Hey Bro,
I've heard Jeffers several times, I even have had him sign my Bible and give me a word. In all of his sermons he has always, 100% of the time directed all glory, power, eternity, to Jesus. He has never...again he has never, that I have heard, made himself out to be something more than he is.
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I'm happy your experiences have been positive. But the man's reputation is not good elsewhere. He caused trouble/division for my BIL at the church he once pastored. He caused division in a fine family between sons in law and their FIL, a well respected pastor. He has been banned to preach in OH. He is not a good man. He is not a man of God. Men of God do not cause division. They bring unity and brotherhood.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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