Dr. Gerald Jeffers

[HolyFire]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

Brother... though I didn't watch the video... I have sat through this "little gods" message in person ... as stated before, at New Life here in Nashville. I sat for multiple services, and have the notes from hearing not only the heresy of the "little gods" message, but also the "we are eternal beings eternally past" teaching as well.

So for those that didn't listen to the whole thing... I did... and it's false doctrine and dangerous teaching....

I remember being at Temple of Deliverence COGIC in Memphis (G.E. Patterson was bishop) and Juanita Bynum was preaching (when she was more of a minister and nowhere near the Jezebel false prophetess). One thing she touched on was 'we are gods' for a couple minutes. It was about a year later she was on TBN @ a friends house and it was all about sowing seed to her and TBN.

We all know how things have been for her since (this was 2000 or 2001).

[HolyFire]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Perhaps you should have watched the entire message.

From my personal experience, sometimes preachers begin preaching a message with some very unusual statements and it leaves me sitting there tense. But by halfway through the message, he brings it all together and the context shifts.

I listened to enough. I've had the Holy Spirit baptism since I was 20, I'm 36 now. I've heard a lot of preaching and been in enough services and bucked up against a few spirits in my time (in church and in prayer). I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed spiritually, but comparing the Word and the spirit I felt while he was preaching - something was BAD OFF.

I am not going to share experiences to validate myself, but I will say this. I heard him several times a while back in Bro. Don Johnson's church in Memphis. No suspicious stuff. It was God. In my spirit, I feel something has happened to him the last year and a half or two years. Don't be surprised if something comes out about him in the future, if he doesn't change.

We aren't gods. Paul said in Romans 7:24 "O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death?".

Remember God killed Herod because he did not correct the people declaring Harod was a god in the book of Acts. We do not have God's DNA we can't have a gods joy/peace etc... Authority is delegated, but a god has his own authority and need none be delegated to him.

There is the Joy of the Lord coming from the Lord. It is not ours, it was given to us. Our DNA will not change until we are translated. That is my 4 cents.

I respect your opinion, but politely disagree.

[houston]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Hey Bro,

I've heard Jeffers several times, I even have had him sign my Bible and give me a word. In all of his sermons he has always, 100% of the time directed all glory, power, eternity, to Jesus. He has never...again he has never, that I have heard, made himself out to be something more than he is.

Why did you have him sign your bible? O.o

Idolize much?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by houston

Why did you have him sign your bible? O.o

Idolize much?

I almost had LS sign my bible once but I was afraid it might be his doppleganger angel and not really him so I didn't.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

I almost had LS sign my bible once but I was afraid it might be his doppleganger angel and not really him so I didn't.

You should have. The Old Man from Pawn Stars may have offered you 5 bucks at some point in the future.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by houston

Why did you have him sign your bible? O.o

Idolize much?

Men of God that I respect and admire, I ask them to write something personally to me. It's not uncommon, nor do I feel as if it's idolizing him.


EDIT:

The Scripture he gave me was Phil. 3:10 and wrote that as I was entering into the ministry to always remember that God places relationship over ministry.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Men of God that I respect and admire, I ask them to write something personally to me. It's not uncommon, nor do I feel as if it's idolizing him.

I agree. And it also increases the value, if by only a few dollars, to this guy.

[HolyFire]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Men of God that I respect and admire, I ask them to write something personally to me. It's not uncommon, nor do I feel as if it's idolizing him.


EDIT:

The Scripture he gave me was Phil. 3:10 and wrote that as I was entering into the ministry to always remember that God places relationship over ministry.

My fave scripture.

Not a bad idea - men of God giving advice, permanently in your Bible.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

Men of God that I respect and admire, I ask them to write something personally to me. It's not uncommon, nor do I feel as if it's idolizing him.


EDIT:

The Scripture he gave me was Phil. 3:10 and wrote that as I was entering into the ministry to always remember that God places relationship over ministry.

I have to be honest... I've seen that done, a lot in the COG and that practice sort of creeps me out. And after being in Evangelism for a few years, I had a couple of young guys in the ministry ask me to do it... and I said I'm honored, but no thanks.... and I declined signing their Bibles.

To me, it's too much like getting autographs, and too easily puts that minister on a different level than they should be. It also inwardly can boost their ego, and we as ministers don't need that.

It's funny that Joe said what he does of why... as the last time at a Campmeeting I was preaching, the young man said could you give me your signature and a note of advice or word in my Bible? I told him, you have all the advice and word you need already printed between the covers of it, you don't need my 2 cents on the front page.

[houston]

Originally Posted by CC1

I almost had LS sign my bible once but I was afraid it might be his doppleganger angel and not really him so I didn't.

Lol.