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Old 04-20-2010, 06:04 PM
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Yeah, I don't mean to play dumb... I do think for the benefit of those who just read here they may need to know some things.

I'll leave your story alone. I wish God's very best for you and where you are now.


Some strive hard to get away from things they themselves promoted and taught. That in it'self brings a new dimension to this discussion, and I think, a greater responsibility to those they wrongly influenced. Many were not simply victims, but also perpetrators.

Not all who attend a UPC are radical separitists in doctrine of lifestyle.

I'll use myself as an example...

I attend a UPC and do not believe they are the "only ones" who love the Lord and are His children.

I reject any notion that keeping a unique dress standard is salvational or that our works propel us into a position of favor with God.

My family and I are not withdrawn from our community nor the churches and Christians within our community. As much as possible we celebrate the differences and uniqueness of other Christian denominations.

Are there those in the UPC who disagree with the above?

Yes indeed. But, I think it's noteworthy that very often those who "leave" were, at one time, ultracon in their separation, worship style, and sectarianism.

I tend to believe a more balanced approach is better whether one is coming into or leaving the UPC or any other denomination.
Good points.

Myself... much of the resistance I feel right now (inside myself) is against the extremists in our movement.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:27 AM
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Re: How do I leave

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Originally Posted by Hoovie View Post
Yeah, I don't mean to play dumb... I do think for the benefit of those who just read here they may need to know some things.

I'll leave your story alone. I wish God's very best for you and where you are now.


Some strive hard to get away from things they themselves promoted and taught. That in it'self brings a new dimension to this discussion, and I think, a greater responsibility to those they wrongly influenced. Many were not simply victims, but also perpetrators.

Not all who attend a UPC are radical separitists in doctrine and lifestyle.

I'll use myself as an example...

I attend a UPC and do not believe they are the "only ones" who love the Lord and are His children.

I reject any notion that keeping a unique dress standard is salvational or that our works propel us into a position of favor with God.

My family and I are not withdrawn from our community nor the churches and Christians within our community. As much as possible we celebrate the differences and uniqueness of other Christian denominations.

Are there those in the UPC who disagree with the above?

Yes indeed. But, I think it's noteworthy that very often those who "leave" were, at one time, ultracon in their separation, worship style, and sectarianism.

I tend to believe a more balanced approach is better whether one is coming into or leaving the UPC or any other denomination.
I completely agree.

I did perpetrate what I was once taught. Unfortunately, I was once taught it though and didn't know any better. Once I knew better, I did what I could to make it right.

If I had been taught what you believe from the get-go, perhaps I would still be UPC and would not have been wounded as drastically nor felt the need to separate myself from what I experienced.

I respect you for having a balanced view.

You also left something at one point in your life. Had you been more balanced then, you would have no doubt made different choices. But, I do not blame you for your choice. I don't know if it was a choice made in rebellion or simple confusion or a lust for "the world". Laregly, I simply know you are living the best choice you can at present and I don't feel a need to judge it. I hope you can grant me the same.

I do see the difference between those who are more balanced in their approach to oneness doctrines and those who are extreme conservatives. I am not bitter, but I resent what I was taught and you can't blame me.
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