Acts 8:14

[Actaeon]

KEY(S) - and not Randy either

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Actaeon

KEY(S) - and not Randy either

Epleys assertion the it is the power to bind and loose .. is singular.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Just at the opening of the doors to Jew-Samaritan(mixed race) Gentile!
He had the keys the power to bind and loose. John was a witness at Samaria and the six brethren were his witness with the Gentiles.

I may be guilty of being to literal here but no where in this particular passage does it say or indicate that Peter acted alone.

vs. 14.......they sent for Peter and John

vs. 15......they both prayed for an infilling

vs. 17 they both laid theor hands on them

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I'm not following you at all.



Later in the chapter are we to believe the Eunuch rec'd the H.G.?

We don't know if the Eunuch spoke in tongues ... but I believe Epley was referring to why Peter ... was present ... making a case for him somehow holding the KEYS..

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Jesus gave Peter the keys and the power to bind and loose. Mt. 16:18.

I'd always been taught the "keys to the kingdom" is Acts 2:28! and loosing someone of their sins happens in water baptism.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Jesus gave Peter the keys and the power to bind and loose. Mt. 16:18.

silliness ... this rock ... is Jesus ... he is the rock on which the church is built ... it is HIM that give us all the power to prevail against the gates of hell.

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

We don't know if the Eunuch spoke in tongues ... but I believe Epley was referring to why Peter ... was present ... making a case for him somehow holding the KEYS..

I find it hard to believe that God would leave someone hangin??

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Kutless

I may be guilty of being to literal here but no where in this particular passage does it say or indicate that Peter acted alone.

vs. 14.......they sent for Peter and John

vs. 15......they both prayed for an infilling

vs. 17 they both laid theor hands on them

It seems Peter was always present and verbal when the Holy Spirit came upon a different group of people for the FIRST time...Jews, Samaritans, Gentiles. Peter never acted alone in Acts 2, Acts 8, or Acts 10.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

silliness ... this rock ... is Jesus ... he is the rock on which the church is built ... it is HIM that give us all the power to prevail against the gates of hell.

Finally, you aren't speaking like a Baptist! A baptist grammarian I know states the rock is Peter because Peter is the antecedent, much like the Roman Catholic church believes.

The gates of hell cannot prevail against the church, not visa versa!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Finally, you aren't speaking like a Baptist! A baptist grammarian I know states the rock is Peter because Peter is the antecedent, much like the Roman Catholic church believes.

The gates of hell cannot prevail against the church, not visa versa!

Vice versa ... indeed ....

I find it amazing that Oneness folks dont understand Mt 18:16