Mostly funny, yeah. But I don't think this is funny:
There were clots and the doctor's advice was, "We have to cut him open immediately to even try to save his life." Pastor Slack and those with him said, 'No, we'll pray." And they prayed... they took another set of pictures of my heart and the clots and blockages had disappeared!!! They did not cut me open.
I hope nobody follows this pastor's example in an emergency situation. If you want to pray, pray in the waiting room and don't interfere.
In light of all the obvious dishonesty, it's fairly natural, I would say, to have difficulty with the story.
Affirmative: Hope's accredition is now through CCCU. I found them on the page.
Pel, I am positive that AST advertised as "fully accredited" prior to Hope. They used to print out publications with this information. They were very proud of it. I know they previously had an affiliation with Patten University in Oakland, so I'm thinking they did the same piggy-back deal with them.
AST was accredited through another school before Hope. I can't remember the name of the school. My understanding (which is very limited) is that an AST degree is really a Hope degree. They must be acting as some sort of virtual satellite to Hope. I believe they are legitimate.
AST was accredited through another school before Hope. I can't remember the name of the school. My understanding (which is very limited) is that an AST degree is really a Hope degree. They must be acting as some sort of virtual satellite to Hope. I believe they are legitimate.
That is my understanding as well.
I'm not sure on the rigor of their curriculum, but that's an issue with accredited schools as well. I believe the school before Hope that they piggy-backed on was Patten University in Oakland, CA. It's a Pentecostal college.
Affirmative: Hope's accredition is now through CCCU. I found them on the page.
Pel, I am positive that AST advertised as "fully accredited" prior to Hope. They used to print out publications with this information. They were very proud of it. I know they previously had an affiliation with Patten University in Oakland, so I'm thinking they did the same piggy-back deal with them.
Okay, correction: Hope also claims WASC accredition currently.
Hope International University holds regional accreditation with the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). The status of accreditation indicates that Hope meets WASC’s Accreditation Standards, demonstrates Core Commitments to Institutional Capacity and Educational Effectiveness, and devotes itself to periodic self-evaluation and ongoing institutional improvement. WASC is one of six regional associations that accredit public and private schools, colleges, and universities in the United States. The Western region covers institutions in California, Hawaii, Guam, and the Pacific Basin. The Association’s member institutions are recognized by the Department of Education, the Veteran’s Administration, and other relevant agencies in the United States.
Okay, I tried the link. I also put in schools I thought for sure would have accredition, and they aren't coming up. Maybe through a different accredition association? But if Hope explicitly says WASC, you'd think that was accurate. They could get in SERIOUS trouble for advertising with WASC if they aren't.
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Okay, correction: Hope also claims WASC accredition currently.
Hope International University holds regional accreditation with the Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities of the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). The status of accreditation indicates that Hope meets WASC’s Accreditation Standards, demonstrates Core Commitments to Institutional Capacity and Educational Effectiveness, and devotes itself to periodic self-evaluation and ongoing institutional improvement. WASC is one of six regional associations that accredit public and private schools, colleges, and universities in the United States. The Western region covers institutions in California, Hawaii, Guam, and the Pacific Basin. The Association’s member institutions are recognized by the Department of Education, the Veteran’s Administration, and other relevant agencies in the United States.
What's the difference between the two WASC orgs? Or are they the same org with two different websites? Gonna look at that.
Thanks for the tip Max.
Would it be fair to say that the Apostolic School of Theology has it's accreditation "piggy-back" fashion through Hope Int'l - who has their accreditation "piggy-back fashion" through CCCU?
And people wonder why credibility comes into question! This kind of stuff really ticks me off, because it is about integrity or the lack thereof, really!
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