Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh? - Page 8

mental · #1 08-07-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary

No offense bro, but Jesus made it pretty clear to the disiciples after He resurrected that it was not a spirit they were seeing, but an actual physical body of flesh and bones, He even ate some food to give them additional proof !

(and I don't remember reading where He ever gave up His resurrected physical body, so there is no scriptural reason to think He no longer has it)

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Luke 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Luke 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

Luke 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

Luke 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

I don't think you read my post.

BroGary · #2 08-07-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mental

I don't think you read my post.

Sorry bro, did not mean to imply anything negative, this is not meant as an "arguement", simply a discussion :-)

I was just further elaborating with some additional scriptures that Jesus did indeed have a physical body when He resurrected.

(not referring to you specifically, but just speaking in general - I just can't believe how any apostolic could think that Jesus did not resurrrect with a physical body given the scriptures mentioned :-)

Praxeas · #3 08-07-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary

No offense bro, but Jesus made it pretty clear to the disiciples after He resurrected that it was not a spirit they were seeing, but an actual physical body of flesh and bones, He even ate some food to give them additional proof !

(and I don't remember reading where He ever gave up His resurrected physical body, so there is no scriptural reason to think He no longer has it)

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Luke 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Luke 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

Luke 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

Luke 24:43 And he took it, and did eat before them

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

This is all true but this does not mean there wasn't a change afterwards, before He ascended to heaven.

Also, nobody knows what a spiritual body (see 1cor 15) is for sure. We do know it is different. Jesus was able to change his appearance or make them not recognize him as well as walk through walls or something to that effect. It may be that his body was changed into that spiritual body but that spiritual body is a body of flesh and bones yet with some major differences.

We will also be changed into that body we are told

BroGary · #4 08-07-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

This is all true but this does not mean there wasn't a change afterwards, before He ascended to heaven.

Also, nobody knows what a spiritual body (see 1cor 15) is for sure. We do know it is different. Jesus was able to change his appearance or make them not recognize him as well as walk through walls or something to that effect. It may be that his body was changed into that spiritual body but that spiritual body is a body of flesh and bones yet with some major differences.

We will also be changed into that body we are told

The scriptures are pretty clear that Jesus had an actual "flesh and bones" physical body, He could even eat the same natural physical food the disiciples ate.

Of course it was a glorified body that would not have all the same limitations His physical body had before the resurrection, but it was still "flesh and bones" nonetheless.

Yep, and I am looking forward to when we have the same type of glorified bodies, no longer affected by the negative effects we have to endure now :-)

SRM · #5 08-07-2010, 02:22 PM

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Praxeas · #6 08-07-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SRM

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

That's speaking metaphorically. You don't really believe that we are literally a bunch of cells or building blocks of His literal physical body that died on teh cross do you?

mfblume · #7 08-26-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SRM

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

And so was Eve the body of Adam, and yet Adam still had a personal body of arms and legs.

watchman · #8 08-07-2010, 07:13 PM

It was a man lived, died, and rose again, and when Christ returns to Earth to reign He will be reigning as that same man. It will be a literal man returning to Earth. Yes Jesus is still in his flesh.

Praxeas · #9 08-07-2010, 07:26 PM

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.

watchman · #10 08-07-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.

That is exactly right we will have glorified bodies like the one Jesus was resurrected in when He returns