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08-22-2010, 05:50 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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I hope we all know that GNR just covered Knockin on Heaven's Door. Mr Bob Dylan wrote and performed long ago. 
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Of course,but GNR did it better
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08-22-2010, 03:11 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I think it can be appropriate or not. Just live everything else. Content, spirit, intent all matter.
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08-22-2010, 07:42 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
Some secular songs I would use to break the ice in a WITNESSING situation. I doubt I would use them in the worship meeting.
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08-22-2010, 07:46 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Apocrypha
I've seen it 2 times now in my journeys visiting churches here in S. Florida to get ideas for our new church. Talking to the pastors about it they both present it as a icebreaker.
One of them was clever... the played Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult when doing a series on the afterlife and heaven. I can give them a pass for creativity and a sense of humor.
But Granger Community Church which is a trendsetter for the post moderns recently opened with a Poison song.
http://www.alittleleaven.com/2010/08...aise-song.html
Click on link below to view it in their worship service and give your thoughts. Its a growing trend out there.
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I am opposed to this.
Unless it was an inspirational or general feel good song (I'm thinking, "Lean On Me or something like that) it does not have a place in a worship service.
A worship service should be more about HIM than it should about the people worshiping HIM.
Many secular songs may not be anti-God, but very few do little, if anything, to point people in the direction of love of our GOD and our brothers and sisters.
Where is Michael W. Smith when you need him? I can hear him singing now, "When the music fades and all is stripped away...."
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08-22-2010, 07:55 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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I am opposed to this.
Unless it was an inspirational or general feel good song (I'm thinking, "Lean On Me or something like that) it does not have a place in a worship service.
A worship service should be more about HIM than it should about the people worshiping HIM.
Many secular songs may not be anti-God, but very few do little, if anything, to point people in the direction of love of our GOD and our brothers and sisters.
Where is Michael W. Smith when you need him? I can hear him singing now, "When the music fades and all is stripped away...."
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So "Lean On Me" is ok? This is what makes my head spin:
"I'm against this!!!!".......(well, except that one song. I like that one)
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08-22-2010, 08:20 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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So "Lean On Me" is ok? This is what makes my head spin:
"I'm against this!!!!".......(well, except that one song. I like that one)
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Seems hypocritical on the surface, but I only used that as an example as it was the first secular song I could think of that may be ok for a worship service.
I actually like listening to, "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", but would NEVER expect it to be part of a worship service.
Personally, I can't remember the last time I've been in a worship service where secular music was used.
The bottom line, if the music is not pointing people to loving and worshipping GOD or our brothers and sisters in Christ, it should not be a part of a worship service.
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08-22-2010, 08:23 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
Yes, I do like listening to, "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", but I see another side to this discussion.
If I can listen to, "Knockin On Heaven's Door" in my home, why wouldn't it be appropriate at church?
Could it be that, "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" is simply inappropriate for Christians to enjoy in the first place?
Maybe this is why my parents raised us in a home where nothing but Gospel / Christian music was ever played. NOTHING ELSE WAS EVEN AN OPTION!
IT NEVER CAME ACROSS MY MIND TO BRING THE SONGS I HEARD AT SCHOOL HOME WITH ME-- LET ALONE TO CHURCH!
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08-22-2010, 08:25 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Seems hypocritical on the surface, but I only used that as an example as it was the first secular song I could think of that may be ok for a worship service.
I actually like listening to, "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", but would NEVER expect it to be part of a worship service.
Personally, I can't remember the last time I've been in a worship service where secular music was used.
The bottom line, if the music is not pointing people to loving and worshipping GOD or our brothers and sisters in Christ, it should not be a part of a worship service.
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08-22-2010, 08:27 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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If it's good enough for your car, it's good enough for Jesus at church. Jesus is in your car, too.
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Mr Smith, have you ever listened to Neon Trees? If you get a chance they have a song "Sins of My Youth." Really good actually. I like the whole album. It is called "Habits"
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08-22-2010, 08:33 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
Also this was the best part of the Transformers 2 movie, IMO
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