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Old 09-14-2010, 09:21 AM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

While I disagree with movements that are Christian-based but solely driven by social justice, there's no denying the reality of adequate theology behind "defending the poor, disenfranchised, widows, orphans, powerless," etc. Anyone who says otherwise needs to do some reading.

If Glen Beck is noticing many of his opponents use social justice to combat some of the Republican/Conservative ideas, then he needn't take on those who believe in social justice, stick with taking on their ideas and explain why they won't work. Beck telling people to run from churches that believe in being involved in social justice is more sickening to me. I know he wouldn't like the someone putting a theological metric to his LDS faith.

Coadie, you told Aquila it was legislation. That's silly. Legislation doesn't create itself, draft itself, get enough public support to be important all on it's own.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:31 AM
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While I disagree with movements that are Christian-based but solely driven by social justice, there's no denying the reality of adequate theology behind "defending the poor, disenfranchised, widows, orphans, powerless," etc. Anyone who says otherwise needs to do some reading.

If Glen Beck is noticing many of his opponents use social justice to combat some of the Republican/Conservative ideas, then he needn't take on those who believe in social justice, stick with taking on their ideas and explain why they won't work. Beck telling people to run from churches that believe in being involved in social justice is more sickening to me. I know he wouldn't like the someone putting a theological metric to his LDS faith.

Coadie, you told Aquila it was legislation. That's silly. Legislation doesn't create itself, draft itself, get enough public support to be important all on it's own.
You mentioned charity. That is different than social justice.

By the way, I understand legislation. I have also read the constitution. We are endowed by the Creator the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

It doesn't say right to an equal share of prosperity.
Actually Mormoms are very capitalistic. They are distinctly against socialism.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:35 AM
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Actually Mormoms are very capitalistic. They are distinctly against socialism.
Modern Mormons might be, but their founders certainly weren't. lol
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:34 AM
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You mentioned charity. That is different than social justice.

By the way, I understand legislation. I have also read the constitution. We are endowed by the Creator the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

It doesn't say right to an equal share of prosperity.
Actually Mormoms are very capitalistic. They are distinctly against socialism.
I'm not sure how you equate all those who promote social justice as socialists. Seems to be a great leap of logic, coadie.
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:41 PM
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You mentioned charity. That is different than social justice.

By the way, I understand legislation. I have also read the constitution. We are endowed by the Creator the right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness.

It doesn't say right to an equal share of prosperity.
Actually Mormoms are very capitalistic. They are distinctly against socialism.
WOW!!

That misquote is from the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:52 PM
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While I disagree with movements that are Christian-based but solely driven by social justice, there's no denying the reality of adequate theology behind "defending the poor, disenfranchised, widows, orphans, powerless," etc. Anyone who says otherwise needs to do some reading.

If Glen Beck is noticing many of his opponents use social justice to combat some of the Republican/Conservative ideas, then he needn't take on those who believe in social justice, stick with taking on their ideas and explain why they won't work. Beck telling people to run from churches that believe in being involved in social justice is more sickening to me. I know he wouldn't like the someone putting a theological metric to his LDS faith.

Coadie, you told Aquila it was legislation. That's silly. Legislation doesn't create itself, draft itself, get enough public support to be important all on it's own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95bcEb1rV18


Al Sharpton talks it up. He drives an Escalade. Not very equal.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:37 AM
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Al Sharpton talks it up. He drives an Escalade. Not very equal.
This isn't about Al Sharpton, nor is he the sum total of all who believe in Social Justice. Many would argue that though some of Sharpton's efforts have been noble, they are muddled together with multiple attention-seeking agendas.

I also think it's hypocritical to get filthy rich off being a charity coordinator.
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Need to get your stories straight. Unions claim credit for the same list. Unions are not the social justice movement at all.
The unions and the social justice folks have the same enemies?
Labor unions are just one element of the social justice movement. And I'm not to big on their function today.
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Labor unions are just one element of the social justice movement. And I'm not to big on their function today.
Correct, they served a purpose and now are just as much part of the problem today. But they were deliverance for the industrial workers.
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We need to be careful not to paint with a broad brush here. Remember, social justice movements brought us women's rights to work and vote, vanquished child labor, brought us safety standards in the work place, brought us liveable wages, and most importantly... the weekend. lol
I agree that we need social justice. It's just that it probably should not be government sponsored except for police and judges and the like. I think social programs are mostly a waste.
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