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Old 05-03-2007, 05:04 PM
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The Church has been praying for years for revival and it's always, "coming -- just around the corner" but it never gets here for some reason.

The truth is God moves in every decade pretty much with a fresh wave of power and glory, supernaturally and sovereignly to usher millions into the kingdom. And the fact is the Church and Man generally have little to do with it outside of cooperating - maybe - if they're even capable of that. Most revivals the "Church" scoffs at because it's not happening in or of us.
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:21 PM
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The Church has been praying for years for revival and it's always, "coming -- just around the corner" but it never gets here for some reason.

The truth is God moves in every decade pretty much with a fresh wave of power and glory, supernaturally and sovereignly to usher millions into the kingdom. And the fact is the Church and Man generally have little to do with it outside of cooperating - maybe if they're even capable of that. Most revivals the "Church" scoffs at because it's not happening in or of us.
I don't think the church is really praying though, for it...the church talks about praying for it...we evoke high brow churchy prayer for it...

Let's revisit Azusa again.....William Seymour was not noted for his preaching. They said he spent his time with his head in an apple crate moaning and groaning in prayer and that others were praying too. It was not a preaching service with music and someone preaching a message every time. It was not a regular 30 min before church prayer meeting. They were burdened and prayed fervently....they were not rushed to get to Denny's after the meeting.

They did not worry about getting home in time to catch American Idol.

I am reminded of a message Gordon Mallory preached on the revival in the Philipines....it was called Prayer and Fasting. Prayer and fasting was not elective for them. It was not another program the church does that you can get involved with. It was the bread and butter. It was what EVERYTHING was staked on. The preaching and the outreach was pointless if there was not constant prayer and fasting to such an extent that it did not bring rejoicing, but tears from the realization that there was yet still sinners unsaved.

We have a lot of rejoicing services....you can watch others shockamoo all night long. But when does the power of God drive us to our knees in tears and burdened for souls?
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I don't think the church is really praying though, for it...the church talks about praying for it...we evoke high brow churchy prayer for it...

Let's revisit Azusa again.....William Seymour was not noted for his preaching. They said he spent his time with his head in an apple crate moaning and groaning in prayer and that others were praying too. It was not a preaching service with music and someone preaching a message every time. It was not a regular 30 min before church prayer meeting. They were burdened and prayed fervently....they were not rushed to get to Denny's after the meeting.

They did not worry about getting home in time to catch American Idol.

I am reminded of a message Gordon Mallory preached on the revival in the Philipines....it was called Prayer and Fasting. Prayer and fasting was not elective for them. It was not another program the church does that you can get involved with. It was the bread and butter. It was what EVERYTHING was staked on. The preaching and the outreach was pointless if there was not constant prayer and fasting to such an extent that it did not bring rejoicing, but tears from the realization that there was yet still sinners unsaved.

We have a lot of rejoicing services....you can watch others shockamoo all night long. But when does the power of God drive us to our knees in tears and burdened for souls?
I feel the conviction of the Holy Ghsot, Prax...
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I definitely agree though that the Church should be on its knees.

I wish you great success in getting it there.
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Excellent call, Chuck!

Church, to your knees for Revival!!
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I definitely agree though that the Church should be on its knees.

I wish you great success in getting it there.
If history has taught us anything, it's that revival can begin with one person...just one individual committed to laying before God until something happens.

My prayer is, Lord, let the revival begin with me!!

This is a great thread, btw, and the posts have been excellent.
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This is very good. I really appreciate this post and I pray that it will ignite Revival Fires in our hearts... especially mine.

Prayer... fasting...yes, these are building blocks for anout pouring of the Holy Ghost. But there's something more. The Bible, and history as well, tells us clearly the missing ingredient for a move of God. Acts 1:14 tells us the disciples "continued with one accord in prayer and supplication". They were united BEFORE Pentecost. Acts 2:1 says they were UNITED in one accord DURING Pentecost. Finally, Acts 2:46 tells us they were with one accord AFTER Pentecost. The pattern is repeated in Acts 4:24, Acts 4:31,32 and in Acts 5:12. These folks were united as one before, during and after the outpouring of the Holy Ghost at Solomon's porch. Without that unity, that co-hesiveness, we will not see the revival we so earnestly seek. Look at the Welsh Revival, the Azusa Street Outpouring and so on. Unity is the key. And, historically speaking, there has never been an exclusively "Oneness Revival" or "Trinitarian Revival". Revival is sent by God to break down the fences, to remove the barriers.

Revival has always been and always will be, a melting pot... a place where our differnces are melted away in the Presence of God. Whether we like it or not, God sent revival brings people together. Perhaps not doctrinally, but spiritually. True, until we are united doctrinally, any "spiritual" unity is relatively short lived. But, every outpouring of the Holy Spirit has always been of short duration. Pentecost lasted only a short time, as did the Azusa Street outpouring. But as long as we can be united in spirit, we have every reason to expect an outpouring of the Holy Ghost. For it to arrive, though, we've got to rid ourselves of our strife and bickering. We'll have to lose our "spiritual pride". And, we'll have to say as Abraham... "Let there be no strife between me and thee...for we be brethren." Thank you Charlie Brown for a great word from the Lord.
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I want it more than my daily bread...I join you folks in prayer for our world...I do believe in a last day revival and it doesn't matter to me how many do not believe there will be one...I feel the fire of God buring in my souls From China to the seas..spreading in south america and on to africa and all the nations of the world.
If HG people would quit their fighting and obey the go ye command we could really see something our generation has never seen...as long as we try to kill each other we run the risk of God choising someone or some other group to get His work done.
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I believe in revival too and I definitely believe in an end time revival. There have been several revivals just in the last decade that have greatly affected many areas of the world. The revival that took place in China was phenomenal - truly amazing and truly sovereignly designed and birthed by God Almighty.

Does or would anybody here agree that most of the great revivals that have happened which have impacted whole countries, nations and regions have have not come through or as a result of a church?

I know that prayer moves God and that God responds to love for the lost and intercession on their behalf.

There are men and women today standing in the gap and their prayer is making a difference.
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I believe in revival too and I definitely believe in an end time revival. There have been several revivals just in the last decade that have greatly affected many areas of the world. The revival that took place in China was phenomenal - truly amazing and truly sovereignly designed and birthed by God Almighty.

Does or would anybody here agree that most of the great revivals that have happened which have impacted whole countries, nations and regions have have not come through or as a result of a church?

I know that prayer moves God and that God responds to love for the lost and intercession on their behalf.

There are men and women today standing in the gap and their prayer is making a difference.
I don't necessarily believe in an end time revival. I believe in the possibility for revival for the church or any local church if they will get with it so to speak
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