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Old 02-27-2008, 06:17 AM
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Re: No Double Dipping? General Board votes agains

Also, does not WPF policy de-facto authorize the local assembly to license and ordain? Just a question.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:50 AM
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Also, does not WPF policy de-facto authorize the local assembly to license and ordain? Just a question.
Is this true? I don't see where anyone answered it.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:30 PM
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Is this true? I don't see where anyone answered it.
Yes.

It is true.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:39 PM
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Yes.

It is true.
WOW Bro Ego, thanks for the clarification. That sure will make it easier for the young ministers
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:43 PM
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WOW Bro Ego, thanks for the clarification. That sure will make it easier for the young ministers
How so?

Now the local pastor will hold the young ministers on a very short leash.

There will be no oversight committees for the young man to appeal to.

Talk about control?

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Old 02-27-2008, 07:34 AM
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As more info on this filters down ... I am still curious to see what DB's role was in the passage of this last GB resolution.

In his last letter the Southern Texas District, he was the first leader of national stature to allude to formulating the legal basis for the argument against this type of double dipping.

He said, 'To fulfill this plan, the WPF will need to identify ministerial license in some way in order to qualify members, qualify officers, conduct votes, and enforce adherence to its Articles of Faith. However, the Manual of the UPCI states that its ministers cannot be licensed with another “organization or association” (Art. VII, Sec. 2, Par.)

I think he's defining license not as a card, per se... But in qualifying it's constituents.

If he was influential at this week's meeting ... it brings up a whole new set of questions and analysis of his role in the org in the last 15-20 years.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:17 AM
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As more info on this filters down ... I am still curious to see what DB's role was in the passage of this last GB resolution.

In his last letter the Southern Texas District he was the first leader of national stature to allude to formulating the legal basis for the argument against this type of double dipping.

He said, 'To fulfill this plan, the WPF will need to identify ministerial license in some way in order to qualify members, qualify officers, conduct votes, and enforce adherence to its Articles of Faith. However, the Manual of the UPCI states that its ministers cannot be licensed with another “organization or association” (Art. VII, Sec. 2, Par.)

I think he's defining license not as a card, per se. But in qualifying it's constituents.

If he was influential at this week's meeting it brings up a whole new set of questions and analysis of his role in the org in the last 15-20 years.
Click here to read all of DB's January 21, 2008 letter.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:04 AM
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As more info on this filters down ... I am still curious to see what DB's role was in the passage of this last GB resolution.

In his last letter the Southern Texas District, he was the first leader of national stature to allude to formulating the legal basis for the argument against this type of double dipping.

He said, 'To fulfill this plan, the WPF will need to identify ministerial license in some way in order to qualify members, qualify officers, conduct votes, and enforce adherence to its Articles of Faith. However, the Manual of the UPCI states that its ministers cannot be licensed with another “organization or association” (Art. VII, Sec. 2, Par.)

I think he's defining license not as a card, per se... But in qualifying it's constituents.

If he was influential at this week's meeting ... it brings up a whole new set of questions and analysis of his role in the org in the last 15-20 years.

Dan, I dont have any informatoin on DB and his roll, but I am pretty certain that he was not the only one pushing for this.

I suspect there were a number of men on the General Board who all felt this way.
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:08 AM
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Dan, I dont have any informatoin on DB and his roll, but I am pretty certain that he was not the only one pushing for this.

I suspect there were a number of men on the General Board who all felt this way.
Most certainly he wasn't the only one ... Was he part of the hawks at the meeting? Did he give a legal basis for this?
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:11 AM
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Most certainly he wasn't the only one ... Was he part of the hawks at the meeting? Did he give a legal basis for this?
well, I think we can all speculate that he was PART of the group pushing this.

i also know that the sentiment in the board by at least a solid number was that they simply would not be allowed to be part of both.
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