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Old 06-05-2008, 09:43 PM
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Thank YOu HO for addressing the struggle with judgeing people by thier outward appearance. I to struggle with this. I spent my formative years as a young apostolic in a very judgemental atmosphere. Therefore it became ingrained in my thought patterns. Several years ago, God began to deal with me about judging others and the damage it could do to me and others. I have prayed about it and really worked hard to overcome it. To some extent, I have had some success, but I still find myself judging someone that professing the apostolic experience and not having all of the standards. It happened today!!! I will continue to battle with it. Thank you for your courage in addressing it.
It's difficult to talk about because I don't want people to misunderstand me. I don't want to be this way, but I can't help it. In fact, I don't even consider myself saved right now because I'm not 'living right'.

I long to attend a church where I can worship God in complete freedom and liberty. Right now, I can't. People just want to pray me through (not that I don't need it anyway).

The UPC is all I know. To me, going elsewhere isn't going to save me. In my mind I think that anyway. It's difficult to explain unless you come from where I come from, right?

I attended a local church I thought was non-denominational but later found out it's Baptist. Anyway, I had a good time, loved the service, the people were wonderful, warm, and welcomed me and my friend that accompanied me, but I never went back. It's like I feel I'm worshipping the trinitarian god or something...and the women with short hair and pants on....like me...well, it's hard for me to take in a church setting where all my life I was taught those people weren't saved.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:47 PM
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Re: Your experience when you dropped "dress standa

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It's difficult to talk about because I don't want people to misunderstand me. I don't want to be this way, but I can't help it. In fact, I don't even consider myself saved right now because I'm not 'living right'.

I long to attend a church where I can worship God in complete freedom and liberty. Right now, I can't. People just want to pray me through (not that I don't need it anyway).

The UPC is all I know. To me, going elsewhere isn't going to save me. In my mind I think that anyway. It's difficult to explain unless you come from where I come from, right?

I attended a local church I thought was non-denominational but later found out it's Baptist. Anyway, I had a good time, loved the service, the people were wonderful, warm, and welcomed me and my friend that accompanied me, but I never went back. It's like I feel I'm worshipping the trinitarian god or something...and the women with short hair and pants on....like me...well, it's hard for me to take in a church setting where all my life I was taught those people weren't saved.

why can't you just wear your hair up and wear a skirt? is it such a big price to pay to be
apart of a fellowship that you long to be apart of???
I don't advocate hypocricy, but since you only attend the church and are not active,
who is going to know you are wearing pants when you are in the woods hunting ???
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:52 PM
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why can't you just wear your hair up and wear a skirt? is it such a big price to pay to be
apart of a fellowship that you long to be apart of???
I don't advocate hypocricy, but since you only attend the church and are not active,
who is going to know you are wearing pants when you are in the woods hunting ???
I cannot wear my hair up. For one thing, it's not long enough. For another, my medical condition won't allow me to wear anything on my head. It gives me headaches, even tiny clips and barrettes.

And that's part of the reason why I don't bother going to church. Don't you think that's sad, Mark? Don't you think it's sad that since I cannot 'pay the price', I feel I have to just avoid church altogether?

I'm not worried about wearing pants when hunting.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:56 PM
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I cannot wear my hair up. For one thing, it's not long enough. For another, my medical condition won't allow me to wear anything on my head. It gives me headaches, even tiny clips and barrettes.

And that's part of the reason why I don't bother going to church. Don't you think that's sad, Mark? Don't you think it's sad that since I cannot 'pay the price', I feel I have to just avoid church altogether?

I'm not worried about wearing pants when hunting.

well for starters you could take those ear bobs off
gather it back and put a clip on bun on the nap of you neck.
It wont hurt you to do that for a few hours. when your with
the natives you wear the get up- just do it I know you can!
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:57 PM
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It's difficult to talk about because I don't want people to misunderstand me. I don't want to be this way, but I can't help it. In fact, I don't even consider myself saved right now because I'm not 'living right'.

I long to attend a church where I can worship God in complete freedom and liberty. Right now, I can't. People just want to pray me through (not that I don't need it anyway).

The UPC is all I know. To me, going elsewhere isn't going to save me. In my mind I think that anyway. It's difficult to explain unless you come from where I come from, right?

I attended a local church I thought was non-denominational but later found out it's Baptist. Anyway, I had a good time, loved the service, the people were wonderful, warm, and welcomed me and my friend that accompanied me, but I never went back. It's like I feel I'm worshipping the trinitarian god or something...and the women with short hair and pants on....like me...well, it's hard for me to take in a church setting where all my life I was taught those people weren't saved.
Wow... I could have written this myself. I started attending church again at my wifes request. In all honesty, I hadn't been in a church service in years until just after Lola passed away. She asked me to start going. And I did. I visited some Baptist churches, even answered the "invitation" to rededicate my life at one. Why? ...because I felt convicted when the preacher preached and felt like I needed to. I know.... some will think I'm just awful, but what do you expect from a man who, as a boy, started his Christian life out by reading prayers from a Catholic Prayer Book?

But.... I'm not Baptist, and I don't wanna go to a Baptist Church. Like you, sister, and I call you sister because you are, even though you don't consider yourself "saved.), I want a good Pentecostal church....I think I've found it though its pretty good piece from where I live.

I understand, Sister, 'cause I know exactly where you is comin' from.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:10 PM
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Wow... I could have written this myself. I started attending church again at my wifes request. In all honesty, I hadn't been in a church service in years until just after Lola passed away. She asked me to start going. And I did. I visited some Baptist churches, even answered the "invitation" to rededicate my life at one. Why? ...because I felt convicted when the preacher preached and felt like I needed to. I know.... some will think I'm just awful, but what do you expect from a man who, as a boy, started his Christian life out by reading prayers from a Catholic Prayer Book?

But.... I'm not Baptist, and I don't wanna go to a Baptist Church. Like you, sister, and I call you sister because you are, even though you don't consider yourself "saved.), I want a good Pentecostal church....I think I've found it though its pretty good piece from where I live.

I understand, Sister, 'cause I know exactly where you is comin' from.
Thanks for the kind thoughts. I long to find a good Pentecostal church.
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It's difficult to talk about because I don't want people to misunderstand me. I don't want to be this way, but I can't help it. In fact, I don't even consider myself saved right now because I'm not 'living right'.

I long to attend a church where I can worship God in complete freedom and liberty. Right now, I can't. People just want to pray me through (not that I don't need it anyway).

The UPC is all I know. To me, going elsewhere isn't going to save me. In my mind I think that anyway. It's difficult to explain unless you come from where I come from, right?

I attended a local church I thought was non-denominational but later found out it's Baptist. Anyway, I had a good time, loved the service, the people were wonderful, warm, and welcomed me and my friend that accompanied me, but I never went back. It's like I feel I'm worshipping the trinitarian god or something...and the women with short hair and pants on....like me...well, it's hard for me to take in a church setting where all my life I was taught those people weren't saved.


Ah, the BORG...the mothership...it's done a number on you HO.

Your post is classic cult mentality......if it was a devil I'd rebuke it out of you, but it's not ...just old time pentecostal brainwashing.

I do pray for you to be liberated from it.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:08 PM
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Ah, the BORG...the mothership...it's done a number on you HO.

Your post is classic cult mentality......if it was a devil I'd rebuke it out of you, but it's not ...just old time pentecostal brainwashing.

I do pray for you to be liberated from it.


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Old 06-05-2008, 11:11 PM
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Ah, the BORG...the mothership...it's done a number on you HO.

Your post is classic cult mentality......if it was a devil I'd rebuke it out of you, but it's not ...just old time pentecostal brainwashing.

I do pray for you to be liberated from it.
I do have to say that this kind of thing is happening less and less. I know of wonderful UPC churches. Sadly, they aren't in my area.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:13 PM
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It's difficult to talk about because I don't want people to misunderstand me. I don't want to be this way, but I can't help it. In fact, I don't even consider myself saved right now because I'm not 'living right'.
Okay so your not living right but why are you trying to live right? Why not just start living for Him and let Him do His work in you. Let Him change you to how He wants you to be not how someone has told you that you have to be.

I long to attend a church where I can worship God in complete freedom and liberty.
You need to simply worship and not worry about THEM. They do not make your walk with God, you do.

Right now, I can't. People just want to pray me through (not that I don't need it anyway).

The UPC is all I know. To me, going elsewhere isn't going to save me.
You are right it isn't going to save you to go anywhere else. As a matter of fact no church UPCI included isn't going to save you. JESUS is the only one that can do that. You simply need to renew your relationship with Him and not worry about others.

In my mind I think that anyway. It's difficult to explain unless you come from where I come from, right? I have been there, I know.

I attended a local church I thought was non-denominational but later found out it's Baptist. Anyway, I had a good time, loved the service, the people were wonderful, warm, and welcomed me and my friend that accompanied me, but I never went back. It's like I feel I'm worshipping the trinitarian god or something...and the women with short hair and pants on....like me...well, it's hard for me to take in a church setting where all my life I was taught those people weren't saved.
let me remind you that many of us come to Him broken and in pieces, yes even some of us that were raised in church. We come to Him so that He can put us back together.
You are his child and staying away from Him breaks His heart. It isn't the church building or the people that you need to worry about. You need to simply live to please HIM. What does He want from you? your heart. He wants your love. He wants you to shine His light and be His example to others. Yes the fellowship of others is good but your relationship with Him is most important. Once you realize that you are living for Him and not for others it makes it easier to live your life and worship in freedom.
I will be praying for you that God give you peace and that you find yourself renewed in Him.
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