Re: *SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugera
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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY
You've got a real problem if you have no problem killing. You speak as though you'd enjoy the task and defend anyoine who would slaughter a baby. Do you feel as Obama; a baby would be punishment for a good time had? I'm praying for Obama that he will be miserable until he repents of his wicked ways and turns his life over to Christ.
Well at least we are coming together on this one thing-- we're both praying for the President elect.
He's gonna need much prayer for a variety of reasons.
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Re: *SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugera
The "Pro-Life" political movement is dead. We will never outlaw abortion.
The "Pro-Family" political movement is dead. We cannot prevent gay marriage.
What we need is to INFLUENCE our culture by example and teaching. We can teach the value of life and serve our world by providing pro-family services, ministries, and alternatives. We can refuse to perform gay marriages in our churches and hold traditional marriage in high esteem among our congregations.
The world will be the world. It's time for the church to be the church and stop relying on worldly political power to accomplish a spiritual mission.
Re: *SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugera
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Originally Posted by Aquila
The "Pro-Life" political movement is dead. We will never outlaw abortion.
The "Pro-Family" political movement is dead. We cannot prevent gay marriage.
What we need is to INFLUENCE our culture by example and teaching. We can teach the value of life and serve out world by providing pro-family services, ministries, and alternatives. We can refuse to perform gay marriages in our churches and hold traditional marriage in high esteem among our congregations.
The world will be the world. It's time for the church to be the church and stop relying on political power to accomplish a spiritual mission.
Now this is a reasonable post.
You don't think the whole country should be governed by "church rules"?
Re: *SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugera
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Originally Posted by Sam
Now this is a reasonable post.
You don't think the whole country should be governed by "church rules"?
Thanks Bro. Sam.
I'm a realist. First, I don't see it as possible. Second, I think it would be counter productive. People would resent the church. We live by these rules because we are regenerated, but the world isn't. It wouldn't work. The bitter reality is that the world will be the world. The question is, will the church wake up and be the church?
Re: *SHOCK* Rick Warren 2 give Invocation@Inaugera
The article above mentions that Franklin Graham had some criticism over using the name of Jesus in his prayer in 2001.
This is chapter 3, pages 21 through 34 of Franklin
Graham’s book "The Name" which was copyrighted in 2002.
There are factions of society today that hate God and
everything that He stands for. But I did not expect
such a vehement backlash. In America, where our
currency declares “In God We Trust,” it still
surprises me that when a Christian minister does what
he is ordained to do –read and quote from the Bible,
share the truth of the Gospel, pray in the Name of
Jesus –some people view these acts as borderline
subversive!
In January of 2001, our nation was perhaps more
divided politically than at any time I can remember.
The controversy surrounding the presidential election
vote count in Florida had polarized Americans. Even
though most voters were pleased to see a change in the
White House after eight turbulent years, according to
pollsters, nearly 50 percent were disappointed and
even convinced that Governor Bush and the Republicans
had somehow manipulated the outcome. In hindsight,
election officials and even the media concurred after
intense scrutiny and review, that this was not the
case.
My father has had the honor of praying or
participating in some way at eight presidential
inaugurations, beginning with the ceremony for Lyndon
Johnson in 1965. When it came time for Bill Clinton’s
second inauguration, my father was invited once again
to offer an inaugural prayer. Because his health
problems had flared, he asked me to accompany him to
Washington D.C.
During that ceremony, I was seated at my father’s
right side on the inaugural platform. To my left sat
all of the Supreme Court justices in their robes and
caps. Behind was the Democratic and Republican
leadership from both houses of Congress.
This spectacular event always involves much pomp and
circumstance. The election battle is over. The time
now comes for the government of this mighty land and
its citizens to inaugurate a president.
I had been impressed to see members of the opposing
political parties –in heated battle for the prize of
the White House just two months before –now shaking
hands and greeting each other warmly. Life for both
the nation and individuals would move on. Bill Clinton
would continue to govern. Bob Dole would return to
private life, make speeches, and enjoy other
productive activities outside the Senate chamber. What
a great nation and system of government.
When the time had come for my father to pray, the only
help needed was a firm hand to help him stand.
Following the ceremony the dignitaries and guests had
walked up the steps of the Capitol Building to attend
the inaugural luncheon hosted by the Joint
Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies. This
gathering has long been a tradition and serves to
further make the statement that that inauguration day
symbolizes our unity as a nation. My father had been
asked to offer the prayer of blessing for the food,
and so he was seated at the head table. I was seated a
short distance away, concerned that he would need some
help to the podium when it came time to pray. I
approached Vice President Al Gore, seated next to my
father, and asked him if he would assist my father if
needed. He graciously agreed and when my father was
introduced, Vice President Gore helped him to his feet
to make his way to the microphone.
Though the day had been filled with historical
pageantry, I was happy to put it all on the back
burner and head for the hills of North Carolina and to
my mountain home.
Now, four years later as the inauguration of the
forty-third president approached, the inaugural
committee eagerly wanted Billy Graham to participate
in the ceremony. Perhaps more so than for any other
president-elect, my father really wanted to do this
for George W. Bush. Some years before, while visiting
the Bush family at Kennebunkport, Maine, my father and
George W. had had a conversation on issues of faith
that had made a dramatic impact on Bush’s life, as he
describes in his biography, "A Charge to Keep."
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