Loren Yadon's: Tragedies of War???? - Page 10

Theophil · #1 02-21-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

We've all done and said things we regret.

Amen to that! KH seems, to me, a very down to earth, prayerful, humble man. If someone has bitter, ill feeling toward him, because of something in the past, shouldn't they forgive him? Let God be the judge of His people.

Innocuous · #2 02-21-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophil

Amen to that! KH seems, to me, a very down to earth, prayerful, humble man. If someone has bitter, ill feeling toward him, because of something in the past, shouldn't they forgive him? Let God be the judge of His people.

Sigh...instead of dealing with the facts of first hand accounts we have to now play the 'bitter' card. It's so predictable. Ok, that's cool. You're right though, he does come across as very humble.

Regarding forgiveness, if you forgive someone do you automatically trust them again, or respect them again? Only if you're a fool.

sandie · #3 10-21-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophil

Amen to that! KH seems, to me, a very down to earth, prayerful, humble man. If someone has bitter, ill feeling toward him, because of something in the past, shouldn't they forgive him? Let God be the judge of His people.

If this is in regard to LY and forgivness for the situation, LY had indeed forgiven and moved on. I know, I heard him speak of it with my own ears.
He was terribly hurt, but he has told of the occasion of the forgiving process.
It was a beautiful thing to hear.

Innocuous · #4 02-21-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

We've all done and said things we regret.

True enough. I've certainly done a few doozies in my time, and the was only yesterday...er...this morning.

But, when someone establishes a pattern then there should be some accountability no matter who you are. Throwing people under the bus is the pattern here. LY isn't the only one.

Sweet Pea · #5 02-21-2009, 11:47 PM

Innoc..... I said I was going to make the one comment and step away - but I will respond to your post.... I don't know why KH said that to you. I'm sure it played [I]some[I] part in the termination; but I really do believe - as one person said.... "LY shot himself in the foot". I personally think if he had followed that simple request, it would not have come down like it did. I could be wrong - I've been wrong before.

Raven · #6 02-21-2009, 11:51 PM

I know one thing. I'm friends with both and I wish this whole situation had never happened!

Raven

Sweet Pea · #7 02-22-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

I know one thing. I'm friends with both and I wish this whole situation had never happened!

Raven

DITTO and AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sam · #8 02-22-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

.... "LY shot himself in the foot". I personally think if he had followed that simple request, it would not have come down like it did. I could be wrong - I've been wrong before.

If KH owned the school he had every right to censor or control what was taught by the staff. If LY knew the current rules he was just asking for trouble.

SDG · #9 02-22-2009, 08:57 AM

The political pressures ... regardless of the "final straw" came from the AS and then the subsequent "suicide" sermon that resulted in KH's colleagues putting inordinate pressure on him to act .... there were letters, calls for his resignation , THREATS TO PULL OUT OF CLC... by ministerial colleagues. A bloodthirst for DISFELLOWSHIP.

This culture is steeped in group dynamics and peer pressure ... it dictates so much that is done and not done.

To pretend the firing happened in a box ... is definitely damage control.

Everyone will have a different twist what brought it down ... but it was the divisiveness of the era that made this happen ... and a dishonoring of a gentlemen's agreement made in 1945.

Theophil · #10 02-22-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The political pressures ... regardless of the "final straw" came from the AS and then the subsequent "suicide" sermon that resulted in KH's colleagues putting inordinate pressure on him to act .... there were letters, calls for his resignation , THREATS TO PULL OUT OF CLC... by ministerial colleagues. A bloodthirst for DISFELLOWSHIP.

This culture is steeped in group dynamics and peer pressure ... it dictates so much that is done and not done.

To pretend the firing happened in a box ... is definitely damage control.

Everyone will have a different twist what brought it down ... but it was the divisiveness of the era that made this happen ... and a dishonoring of a gentlemen's agreement made in 1945.

A lot of truth to this ... not. perhaps all truth, but a lot, nevertheless.